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- From: altar@beaufort.sfu.ca (Ted Wayn Altar)
- Subject: Re: Calcium/Magnesium
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- Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
- References: <altar.725581448@sfu.ca> <1992Dec28.234854.16347@pixel.kodak.com> <altar.725666594@sfu.ca> <1992Dec29.232920.3510@pixel.kodak.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:58:42 GMT
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- Rich Young writes:
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- >[...ravings deleted...]
-
- Another one of Rich Young's non-intellectual remarks.
-
-
- > As I said, I believe he gave you all that in the r.f.v. exchange;
- > if you've subsequently forgotten, it's not Mr. Dyer's duty to
- > refresh your memory on demand.
-
- Sorry, but you are mistaken as this question was left unanswered
- at that time.
-
-
- >>Second, no rebuttal of my "interpretation" occurred since at that time
- >>no one had even read the study except for myself.
-
- > Indeed, then it HAD to be a rebuttal of your "interpretation," for the
- > very reason that no one but you had yet read Moon's study.
-
- This is quite a confused remark. Think about it. How would anyone
- know whether or not I had correctly conveyed the gist of Professor's
- thesis as published in his paper and as voiced in his two presentations
- which I made explicit reference to? Hence, until somebody bothered
- to even read Moon's paper or had also attended Professor moon's
- academic presentations, then no such "rebuttal" of my report of Moon's
- thesis could be possible.
-
- In any case, this is a moot point which is irrelevant to the
- issue of Mr. Dyer again rudely referring to Professor Moon as
- a "crank". Rich, please try to stay on topic.
-
-
- > recall, several people read it shortly thereafter, however.
-
- And?
-
-
- >>Instead, all that I saw were the mere quibbles about terms and vilification
- >>of a an accomplished researcher and professor of toxicology/nutrition teaching
- >>at a major Canadian University. Hardly a very credible "refutation".
-
- > Oh, I don't know as I agree with that...it was fairly well established
- > that your frenetic references to "anabolic steroids" were, shall we
- > say, "misguided."
-
- As I had explicitly pointed out, the refence to the term "anabolic"
- came from one of Dr. Moon's oral presentations. I am simply reporting
- what he said. Please try to be equally accurate in your reportage of
- what I said.
-
-
-
- > It was also fairly well established that the mere
- > fact that calciferol is a steroid is not a heart-stopping revelation.
-
- No one said that it was Moon's original discovery, but it is news
- to the ordinary layperson. Again, please try to be accurate in
- your reportage.
-
- > And it was fairly well established that it was fortification of food
- > with vitamin D which essentially eliminated rickets from the Western
- > world. Sounds like a credible "refutation" to me.
-
- A refutation of what? Again, if you read what Professor Moon
- actually said, instead of what you seem to want to believe about him,
- you will discover that he does not rule out the vital use of
- a prophylactic delivery of exogenous supplied calciferol (vitamin D),
- only that the present shotgun approach is not necessary and may
- indeed be incurring some unnecessary health risks. Note also, that
- professor Moon is not alone in saying this.
-
-
- > As I recall, you left in a self-righteous huff to go nurse your
- > wounds in GRANOLA for several weeks right after said rebuttal.
-
- I really don't know what you are here talking about, but in any
- case this kind of personal attack is really irrelevant. Now,
- have you bothered to read Professor Moon's paper?
-
-
-
- > By the way, how many times did Moon use the phrase "anabolic
- > steroid" in his paper? How many times did _you_ use the phrase
- > "anabolic steroid" in your "interpretation" of his paper?
-
- Again, you are being a sloppy reader. I didn't say that Professor
- Moon used this term in the paper he recently published. Can you
- cite some sentence of mine that says otherwise? Of course you can't.
-
- To state what already was said, Professor Moon used this
- phrase in one of his oral presentations, of which I have a copy of
- the outline he used for that lecture. What do you have?
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