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- From: tclark@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Terry Clark)
- Subject: Re: Future of Community-based medicine
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.030434.25012@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
- Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:04:34 GMT
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- >From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
-
- [IN HIS REPLY TO:reply to hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu]
-
- >>>The big question of how to cut costs without cutting quality depends on
- >>>what you mean by quality. If we continue to insist that quality means
- >>>unlimited access when we want it to all health care resources, then it
- >>>can't be done. If instead we decide that we really just want reasonable
- >>care for everyone, we can have it for much less than we currently spend.
- - >>(DELETION FOR B.W.)
-
- >>This is a typical totalitarian bureaucratic attitude toward what is
- >>reasonable, and it means poor care and little progress in any situation
- >>which requires thinking and innovation. If the rationers decide that
- >>only 2% of our national income can be spent on medicine, that is what
- >>will happen.
-
- >I'm not saying that I like any of this. >>(DELETION FOR B.W.)
- >I share your concern about the loss of thinkers in medicine. >>(DEL.)
- >It could get a lot worse, depending on what
- >happens politically. Add to this the increasing complexity of medicine.
-
- >The only way I can see for doctors of the future to be able to cope with
- >all this information is with computers.
- -->>(DELETION FOR B.W.)
-
- >I suspect the quality of medicine as practiced by the average
- >practitioner would be markedly better under such a system. perhaps it
- >would even be reasonable to have nurses provide all community-based
- >primary care. Most physicians would be involved in research, sorting
- >out the information needed to update the expert system and doing basic
- >research.
-
- >David Nye
- >nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu
- _______________________
-
- Vastly increasing the computerization of medical care from the nurse at
- bedside doing patient care and IR linked data query/entry to the clinician
- at bedside checking a differential list with an IR linked pen-pad using
- the latest diagnostic package to the row of humming hard drives and WORMs
- in the medical records department to the consultant checking the labs
- his patient had done 200 miles from his office, computers are the only hope
- of delinvering anything resembling quality health care in the future.
-
- But I have to inject my own bias on the issue of community-based primary
- care. I am a Physician Assistant and although I have great respect and love
- for many of the nurses I have worked with I don't think thew would be the best
- choice as the "primary" health provider in the suggested system. I think
- the fault is partly historical and partly a fault of nursing education, but
- the result is that nurses are trained (in large part) NOT make a final clinical
- diagnosis and treatment. (For you flamers that is a lament, not a put-down.
- There is an awful lot of wasted talent in medicine).
- PAs are trained to make a diagniosis and start a course of therapy in
- conjunction with a physician. A properly trained and supervised PA can
- handle most community-based primary carc cases with minimal time demands
- on the supervising physician.
-
- With a good telemedicine system a physician can supervise medical care
- in several sites and still have time for planning and/or research or
- maybe a little bit of a real life outside the office. All at a lower cost
- than what we pay now.
- __________________________________________________________________________
- Terry Clark P.A.-C. tclark@weeg.uiowa.edu
-