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- From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg)
- Subject: Re: Adiposity 101
- Organization: Omen Technology INC, Portland Rain Forest
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 07:12:42 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.071242.6984@omen.UUCP>
- References: <133@ky3b.UUCP> <1992Dec21.002143.26900@crd.ge.com> <dnsurber.725054011@node_26400>
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- In article <dnsurber.725054011@node_26400> dnsurber@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (Douglas N. Surber) writes:
- >In <1992Dec21.002143.26900@crd.ge.com> stpeters@crd.ge.com (Dick St.Peters) writes:
- >
- >>In article 133@ky3b.UUCP, km@ky3b.pgh.pa.us (Ken Mitchum) writes:
- >>> In article <dnsurber.724007610@node_26400>, dnsurber@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (Douglas N. Surber) writes:
- >>> |> Your point seems to be that one pound of fat is the equivalent of some
- >>> |> fixed number of calories, thus if one eats so many extra calories, he
- >>> |> will gain so many extra pounds.
- >>>
- >>> Yup. 3500, if I remember correctly.
- >
- >>Actually, there's a conversion efficiency. N calories of food intake does
- >>not become N calories of fat. The efficiency is very high for conversion
- >>of food fat to stored fat, but for food protein or food carbohydrates to
- >>stored fat a significant percentage of the nominal calories is used up in
- >>the conversion process. I can't remember reliable numbers, and my sources
- >>are back home, but numbers like 90% for fat and 60% for carbohydrates and
- >>proteins come to mind.
- >
- >>I'm pretty sure a pound of human fat has very close to 3600 calories.
- >
- >OK. I guess that this is the crux of my question. Just how consistent are
- >these conversion efficiency numbers between people? Also, how precisely can
- >these numbers be determined for a single person?
- >
- >It would seem that it is likely that two people could have a conversion
- >efficiency difference of several percent, maybe even 10% or more. If this
- >is the case, then two people could eat the same amount, excercise the same
- >amount, and still one gain weight and the other not. And this is only one
- >metabolic path. What about the efficiency of the gut in extracting various
- >components, protein, carbohydrates, fats, from the ingested food? What about
- >the efficiency of converting sugars into ATP? My uneducated guess is that
- >these could combine to produce substantial differences in food to fat/exercise
- >efficiency.
- >
- >Of course I could also be totally wrong.
-
- The relative efficiencies of the macronutrients is covered in
- Adiposity 101.
-
- If you accept Gordon's definition of overeating (sufficient
- energy input to allow maintenance of fat mass above population
- norms), overeating could mean anything between 800 and several
- thousand calories (kcal/d) depending on the individual.
-
- And it really doesn't make any difference if the conversion
- factor is 1000 or 5000, except for the velocity of weight
- change. The individual will undereat or overeat, and eventually
- starve to death or explode.
-
- Of course this doesn't happen except in a few extraordinary
- instances. There is a feedback system that regulates body
- weight within fairly narrow limits. Gordon doesn't believe in
- it, but it is described by the Set Point Theory.
-
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