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- From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
- Newsgroups: sci.med
- Subject: Re: Adiposity 101
- Message-ID: <17876@pitt.UUCP>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 17:10:32 GMT
- References: <dnsurber.724007610@node_26400> <1992Dec11.023403.24710@spdcc.com> <dnsurber.724086417@node_26400>
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- In article <dnsurber.724086417@node_26400> dnsurber@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (Douglas N. Surber) writes:
- >In <1992Dec11.023403.24710@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
-
- >Again, maybe I'm being really dense, but what is Gordon's point about
- >violating physics? You have commented on some moral/philosophical
- >differences but much of what you said with respect to the material
- >world seems to agree with Chuck, if not the particular intellectual slant.
- >
-
- He keeps repeating that eating less will make you fatter due to
- some miraculous effect that slows your metabolism, so that in
- his imaginary world we have all these grossly obese people walking
- around whose metabolisms are so ruined that they eat very little
- and yet weight a ton. It is just absurd. No human studies have
- ever demonstrated any such thing. If your metabolism goes down, you
- either generate less heat or less mechanical energy (exercise). I
- suspect many obese are quite sedentary for obvious reasons, but
- he doesn't claim that is what is happening. Another claim is
- that one loses one's muscle mass through cycle dieting. If so,
- that indeed would lead to a lowered metabolism. However, every
- study I've seen on humans and cycle dieting shows that they don't
- lose their lean mass. In my case, I have been through two moderate
- cycles (50 lbs or so) while my LBM has been determined through measurements
- at many different weights and so I know in my case that I didn't
- lose *any* LBM within experimental error. My metabolism also has
- not changed over many cycles, which can be demonstrated by how much
- weight I lose on a diet where the calories are recorded. I have no
- reason to suspect that I am "special" in this regard. From other
- studies, it would seem that I am not special, and I suspect
- Chuck isn't special either.
-
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- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "I have given you an argument; I am not obliged
- geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | to supply you with an understanding." -S.Johnson
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