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- From: srw@horus.ps.uci.edu (Steven White)
- Subject: Re: Marilyn Vos Savant's error?
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- Date: 2 Jan 93 19:59:39 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec31.203934.1@stsci.edu>, zellner@stsci.edu writes:
- |> > 1) You meet a man on the street and ask him how many children he has.
- |> > He replies "two, and one is a boy." What is the probability that
- |> > his other child is also a boy?
- |> >
- |> > 2) You meet a man on the street and ask him how many children he has.
- |> > He replies "two, and the older one is a boy." What is the
- |> > probability that his other child is also a boy?
- |> >
- |> >The answer to problem 1 is 1/3, while the answer to problem 2 is 1/2.
- |>
- |> > The answer to both is 1/2. One child whose gender is not known, and
- |> > two choices for that gender. It's a 50-50 proposition.
- |>
- |> Nope. Let's re-phrase it a bit. Suppose the man says
- |>
- |> A. "I have two children, and one of them is right over there."
- |> or
- |> B. "I have two children, and the older one is right over there."
- |>
- |> You look and see a boy. What's the chances that they are both boys?
- |> Enumerate the cases:
- |>
- |> Boy - Boy
- |> Boy - Girl
- |> Girl- Boy
- |> Girl- Girl
- |>
- |> Each of those cases is assumed to have exactly the same frequency
- |> in the total of all two-children families.
- |>
- |> In case B you can rule out the latter two combinations, and you are
- |> left with probability 1/2. But in case A you can only rule out the
- |> fourth combination, and the probability is 1/3.
- |>
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- You forgot to label your table. You wanted it to be
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- Older Younger
- ----- -------
- Boy - Boy
- Boy - Girl
- Girl - Boy
- Girl - Girl
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- Then your logic seems to hold. But if I label the table:
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- Kid Kid
- Over there Elsewhere
- ----- -------
- Boy - Boy
- Boy - Girl
- Girl - Boy
- Girl - Girl
- Then case A gives probability 1/2 and case B gives 1/3.
- In other words, this argument fails. Neither wording is the
- same as "at least one of them is a boy".
-
- The correct answer is 1/2 for A and B.
-
- Steve White
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