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- From: israel@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert B. Israel)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: Two problems
- Date: 31 Dec 92 21:04:40 GMT
- Organization: The University of British Columbia
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- References: <1992Dec28.220454.129@front.se> <israel.725681538@unixg.ubc.ca> <1992Dec30.185116.29392@maths.tcd.ie> <israel.725753265@unixg.ubc.ca>
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- In <israel.725753265@unixg.ubc.ca> israel@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert B. Israel) writes:
-
- >In <1992Dec30.185116.29392@maths.tcd.ie> tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes:
-
- >>israel@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert B. Israel) writes:
-
- >>>Suppose there are n couples.
- >>>I'll assume that the men are seated in numerical order, so husband
- >>>#i+1 is two places to the right of #i.
-
- >>I like your silent assumption of perfect etiquette!
- >>Thinks: must revise my idea of California ...
-
- >Actually, Canada.
-
- >BTW, while I'm here I should correct a minor slip in my posting. I
- >wrote that phi(s) -> exp(2 e^{i s}), which should of course be
- >exp(2 e^{i s} - 2). And I forgot to answer the original question:
- >the probability is exp(-2).
-
- >Maybe I misread the original problem. I thought that the assumption was
- >that men and women alternated around the table. Looking back, I see that
- >that wasn't stated. Actually, though, the original poster ( Samuel Gustaf
- >Siren, SAMUEL@front.se, in <1992Dec28.220454.129@front.se>) appears to
- >have tacitly made that assumption as well, judging from his numerical
- >results. E.g. for two couples, he has p(2,0) = 0, while if arbitrary
- >seating was allowed each man could have the other man on one side and the
- >other man's wife on the other.
-
- >I'll have to check what the answer would be for arbitrary seating. Well, I
- >can say what it _should_ be. The probability of any particular man being
- >on his wife's left would be 1/(2n-1), so the expected number of such men
- >would be n/(2n-1). The expected number sitting next to their wives would
- >be 2n/(2n-1). If the limiting distributions are still Poisson, the answers
- >would be exp(-1/2) for problem 1 and exp(-1) for problem 2.
-
- OK, I checked. To show that the limiting distribution is Poisson in the
- arbitrary-seating case (where n couples are seated randomly around a
- table), you can use the variables
- X_j = 1 if the people in seats j and j+1 (mod 2n) are a couple
- 0 if not.
- Then for subset S of {1...2n} such that S and S+1 are disjoint,
- E prod_{j in S} X_j = 1/((2n-1)(2n-3)...(2n-2|S|+1))
- As n -> infinity, the proportion of subsets S of {1..2n} with fixed
- cardinality k that have S and S+1 disjoint tends to 1. So in the
- expansion of
- phi(s) = E exp(is sum_j X_j) =
- sum_{k = 0}^n r^k sum_{|S|=k} E prod_{j in S} X_j
- with r = exp(is)-1, the coefficient of r^k tends to
- lim_{n \to infty} (2n choose k)/((2n-1)(2n-3)...(2n-2k+1))
- = 1/k!
- and the limiting characteristic function is exp(r), corresponding to
- a Poisson distribution of mean 1. This applies to the second question
- (number of men seated next to their wives). For the first question,
- (the men on the left of their wives) let Y_j = 1 if X_j = 1 and the man
- is in seat j. Clearly E prod_{j in S} Y_j = 2^{-|S|} E prod_{j in S} X_j,
- leading to a limiting characteristic function of exp(r/2) and a Poisson
- distribution of mean 1/2.
-
-
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- Robert Israel israel@math.ubc.ca
- Department of Mathematics or israel@unixg.ubc.ca
- University of British Columbia
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