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- From: jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele)
- Subject: Re: High Prices of Math Books. I am pissed.
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- References: <Bzs1Kr.I4v.1@cs.cmu.edu> <1992Dec24.194233.10811@linus.mitre.org> <92Dec24.175829est.47880@neat.cs.toronto.edu> <BzsIH3.2GF.1@cs.cmu.edu>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:07:01 GMT
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- mkant+@cs.cmu.edu (Mark Kantrowitz) writes:
-
- >In article <92Dec24.175829est.47880@neat.cs.toronto.edu> gh@cs.toronto.edu (Graeme Hirst) writes:
- >>This misses the point of the original posting, which was this: Some
- >>publishers (e.g., McGraw-Hill, Prentice-Hall, Addison-Wesley, and other
- >>names with hyphens) will make the *same* book in different bindings at
- >>different prices in different parts of the world. In particular, they
- >>will sell a cheap paperback edition only outside North America, while
- >>insisting that North American customers buy the hardcover edition at a
- >>much higher price.
-
- In certain parts of the world, the publishers publish cheap paperbacks
- to defend against pirates. By pricing their books at a lower price,
- they remove the temptation to photocopy or otherwise reproduce the more
- expensive books. Many software manufacturers quietly practice amnesty
- programs: if you say "I have a pirated copy of SuperDuperWriter, but I
- will pay the upgrade fee if you'll send me a legal copy" will promptly
- do so. They're not necessarily happy about it, but any revenue is
- better than no revenue. Book publishers can't do this exactly, but
- publishing cheap books raises a "barrier to entry" in countries that
- don't enforce copyright as quickly as the publishers would like.
-
- >That's usually a marketing decision, nothing more. For some reason
- >hardcover sells better in the US. It is also more likely to get reviewed,
- >which means they sell more copies.
-
- The difference in manufacturing costs between hardcover and paperback
- is small. What you're possibly paying for is (as you mention) short
- print runs, camera work (including equations and proofreading), and two
- other things you didn't mention: reviews and sample copies.
-
- By "reviews" I don't writeups in magazines, but a professional
- page-by-page review of the book, checking to see that the equations are
- right, that the sums add properly, and that everything else is as
- accurate as possible. This can be a subtantial chunk of money. But
- this is extremely important for books, especially those that are
- expected to be "reference" works. It's probably more important for
- books than even refereed journals.
-
- Textbooks that the publisher hopes to see widely adopted need to be sent
- to people who make the decision on what texts to use. All of the costs
- must be paid for ahead of time: instructors won't use an inaccurate
- text; won't use one that doesn't have the proper graphs and equations;
- etc. If a book isn't adopted fairly widely, the publisher is out those
- costs. Which means that the next book has to pay for them.
-
- There are numerous problems with electronic distribution, but the
- proliferation of the Internet makes it more and more likely that it will
- be easy to retrieve books from their "home" storage place.
-
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