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- From: seeta@eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju UdayaBhaskar Sarma)
- Subject: Re: High Prices of Math Books. I am pissed
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.155150.26719@cs.wayne.edu>
- Sender: usenet@cs.wayne.edu (Usenet News)
- Reply-To: seeta@eng.wayne.edu
- Organization: College of Engineering, Wayne State University, Detroit Michigan, USA
- References: <3800@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:51:50 GMT
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- If people in japan are cribbing about high proces of text books, then imagine
- the troubles of the rest of the third world...
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- With a lousy economic situation, even US students can rightly crib about high prices...
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- Recently, a grad.course here : on stochastic processes, used a text by eugene wong
- (of berkeley). A ~100 page book, slimmer than a HP calculator : lousy type setting...
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- supposed to be lecture notes : was typed on a stupid standard typewriter by another
- of those ubiquitous dept'al secretaries : almost all equations had to be reedited by
- springer verlag and put in proper format. Even then the book sucks in looks...
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- A math book : that too on probability THEORY ; typed using a stupid standard typewriter.
- That too from berkeley....!! (Hmmm. the economy must be real bad..!!)
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- It costs $40.. But it was one heck of a lecture notes...
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- pathetic state of math textbooks.....,
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- Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
- (email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
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- In article 3800@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp, mhiroshi@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (H. Murakami) writes:
- -+>
- -+> The practice of selling something in high price domestically,
- -+>and in cheap at foreign should be called "dumping", and may be
- -+>called as an unfair trading.
- -+>
- -+>They may say the hard cover and paper back are different,
- -+>however I mainly purchase for the content, not for the cover.
- -+>
- -+> Hiroshi Murakami
- -+> mhiroshi@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp
- -+>
- -+>PS.
- -+> The Western book publisher in recent years establish their
- -+>branch in Japan, and distribution of the books are dominated through
- -+>their channel. We usually find they use the currency conversion rate
- -+>around 200yens/dollar or more (the true rate is 125yen/dollars).
- -+>Even we try to order to the US book publisher directly expecting
- -+>to get the 125yen/dollar rating of the prices, what those publisher
- -+>will do to us is just ignore the order or circulate the order to
- -+>those Japanese branch which we would not want to.
- -+>
- -+>The only way to escape these dirty practice is order the books
- -+>not the the publisher directly but order a book seller in USA
- -+>who is not controlled by the publishing jiants.
- -+>
- -+>PS2.
- -+>
- -+>The book publisher is the publisher.
- -+>Their purpose is primaly for money making.
- -+>If by raising the price will totally increase the profit,
- -+>the price will be raised.
- -+>
- -+>The original purpose of the publising the books was not
- -+>to make the books as the material or good, nor for the profit of
- -+>the publisher, but the exchange or distribution of the ideas or
- -+>knowledges especially for the academic books.
- -+>If the academy is for the development of the knowledge and also
- -+>the making easy access of the knowledge, the electorical publication
- -+>should be encoraged.
- -+>
- -+>The Americal Mathematical Society pushing the use of TeX.
- -+>
- -+>For the evaluation of the authors, for the same quality of works,
- -+>the electorical free of charge publications (like anonymous ftp-able)
- -+>should be evaluated higher than the books which is usually not free-to-copy.
- -+>In that case, the author did not want the money by publication
- -+>but the fame, and that kind of circulations would help poors.
- -+>
- -+>As the mathematics has long history, many respectable author's
- -+>copyrights of books or the papers were already expired.
- -+>I do hope those things will be available in CD-ROM like
- -+>10 dollar/CD that contains equivalent of 100 books.
- -+>
- -+>Imagine Gauss's werke or Riemann's or Hilbert's , etc.. free ftp-able,
- -+>or a 10 dollar CD contains full of Burubaki's books, so on.
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