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- From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
- Subject: Re: Nuclear Power and Climate Change
- Message-ID: <l2srmnc@dixie.com>
- Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 04:41:10 GMT
- Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access. The Mouth of the South.
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- dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) writes:
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- >In article <p2qrxnc@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
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- >> First capital cost: If we postulate a scenario where the US
- >> commits to an all-out conversion to nuclear energy, it must
- >> also be postulated that things that need to be done to
- >> streamline the process will be done.
-
- >$250/kW seems awfully low -- that's even less than the capital cost of
- >simple cycle combustion turbines.
-
- That's because combustion turbines are low capacity compared to their
- cost.
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- >The recent USCEA study of the economics of nuclear vs. oil/gas/coal
- >for the next decade used cost figures for ABB Combustion Engineering's
- >new reactor design. Even with its simplification, its "overnight
- >capital cost" is around $1300/kW (for a 1200 MWe reactor). I find it
- >hard to believe that USCEA -- a pronuclear group -- would overestimate
- >the cost of reactors by a factor of 5.
-
- I quoted myself above again to reiterate my basis which should be
- the basis used in the study. That USCEA is using the old, obsolete
- model for nuclear generation to me shows they are about as competent
- at that as they are in making nuclear power advertisements. (I've
- never seen such horrendously bad ads.) Sure a plant of 50s vintage design
- built under even "streamlined" regulations would cost at least $1300/kw.
- I would hope that in the almost 50 years of experience, the industry could
- come up with a more cost-effective design. Since several have already
- been proposed in the literature, I'm sure they can. Of course, if
- DOE is allowed to boondogle as usual, who knows.
-
- Of course, this disucssion is academic since no power executive in his
- right mind would even consider trying to construct another plant
- like what we have now.
-
- Back to the study. That the author used old, stale values on the nuclear
- side while advocating radical social changes on the other shows the
- bogosity of the "study". 'Bout what I'd expect from RMI. If the author
- claims the right to postulate on the basis of radical conservation
- and soft energy, I have an equal right to demand that nuclear figures
- embrace at least the same level of radical change.
-
- John
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