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- From: jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker)
- Subject: Re: Suburbs: the great untouchable (Was: Save planet...)
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:48:39 GMT
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- Michael Smith (p00004@psilink.com) wrote:
- : >DATE: 30 Dec 92 19:40:03 GMT
- : >FROM: James G. Acker <jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov>
- : > But what if...
- : >
- : > I walked to the store, and bought my 3+ grocery (reusable sacks, BTW)
- : >sacks -- I want to pick my own produce, thank you -- and then took them to
- : >a delivery truck, and walked home?
- :
- : Back to the future....
- :
- : This is exactly how I shop, on the upper West Side of Manhattan. A
- : bonus: since all the deliveries are quite local, most of them are made
- : by a guy with a handcart. It costs exactly $2 a load.
-
- So it IS a good idea? (I think that's what you're saying).
- I'd pitch it to the local grocery store chain, which controls a high
- percentage of the market. Would it work?
-
- : It seems inescapable to me that suburbanization is to blame for a great
- : deal of our wastefulness and (environmental) destructiveness. This is an
- : issue that few people posting in these groups address directly, although
- : transportation questions, in particular, are inextricably linked with
- : settlement patterns.
-
- Absolutely. Though I have to point out, the two suburbs
- I've most recently lived in: Columbia, Md and Reston, Va, are planned
- communities with a much higher density than typical older suburbs and
- at least some effort to preserve greenspace. Though if Vandy
- saw the recent destruction around Columbia due to one new road, he'd
- freak. I don't like it (but the plans were underway before I arrived
- here.)
- The problem is: both of these exurbs are just a little too far
- out for a good transportation link. The MARC trains which allow
- Baltimore to Washington commuting would almost work -- if I worked in
- D.C. There is a park-and-ride system that would work (I could walk to
- the pickup-point) if I worked in Baltimore.
- I don't. I WORK IN A SUBURB, too -- as do a lot of folks
- around here. The Naval Surface Weapons Command is in Silver Spring.
- CIA is in Langley. GSFC is in Greenbelt. The NSF move to Arlington --
- even with an EXtremely convenient Metro station -- is being hotly
- contested. DOE has a Germantown Facility. NIST is in Gaithersburg.
- Census Bureau is in Suitland, etc., etc., etc., etc.
- The problem is not just where we live, it's Where We Work.
- I recommend "Edge City" to everyone!
- Because of the growth of the suburban business center,
- both transit and housing need to address this issue. About 35% of the
- people who live in Columbia also work in Columbia. If telecommuting
- from the suburbs was increased, and offices decentralized, maybe we
- could really make some progress, to where 50% or more of suburban
- residents didn't have to drive somewhere to work.
-
- : Since the '20's we in the US have been the "beneficiaries" of Federal
- : and local policies encouraging suburbanization. Shouldn't those of us
- : concerned about environmental damage -- and, I would claim, human
- : quality-of-life, too -- step up to this issue, and make an explicit goal
- : of stopping, and then reversing, this trend? I realize that the
- : single-family house, on its exiguous greensward, in its homogenized
- : socioeconomic laager, is the most sacred of all sacred cows, at least in
- : the US. But the holier the steer, the juicier the steak, I always say.
- :
- : --Michael Smith
-
- The Chesapeake Bay Preservation Initiative* did attempt to
- address the issue -- before land owners and real-estate developers
- shot it down in flames. They objected to the states essentially
- ordering landowners to be beholden to their land -- they wouldn't
- be able to sell it at a profit, to a developer who would develop it
- at a profit, into another suburban strip. Land ownership rights are
- practically in the Constitution -- so how do we at the grass-roots
- level change those ideas?????
-
- * Chesapeake Bay 2000 Plan
-
- Jim Acker
- jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov
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