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- Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!destroyer!ncar!vexcel!dean
- From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
- Subject: Re: Sacrifice (was Re: Save the Planet ...)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.180835.26471@vexcel.com>
- Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
- References: <1992Dec28.231813.4931@vexcel.com> <725629772snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au> <1992Dec30.004747.13379@pbhye.PacBell.COM>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:08:35 GMT
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- >People don't have to sacrifice anything, just get on with it and
- >*benefit*, for the same reasons you wipe your arse whenever you go
- >to the toilet, or wash the dishes, or do the household chores. It is
- >just *housekeeping*, fundamentally, and if you don't want to do it
- >then you have to live in the shit accumulated around you, yes?
-
- No, you can leave the shit for someone else to live in in 50 years.
- >
- You pretty much ignored my point. Costs and
- benefits for washing the dishes or wiping your arse both happen on
- a similar time scale. The costs for CO2 emissions don't. The costs
- for consumption of products that use toxic waste don't. Its easy
- to see that you run out of dishes if you don't wash them so you wash
- them so you can eat off of them. Some people think it is okay to
- ignore such future costs because they _assume_ that future people will
- be able to "fix" it, even if we can't, and that such people won't
- mind wiping off our arses in the future. You refer to housekeeping
- and I agree that that is the issue. The POINT is that the shit
- doesn't necessarily accumulate around you. Sometimes, it accumulates
- around the next generation. Avoiding that requires sacrifices.
-
- You have written in another thread of Chinese care for the next
- generation. If that care is deep enough, then implementing such
- plans may not even be considered a sacrifice. If that is true, then I
- salute the Chinese and think that such an attitude emphasizes just
- how much many of us can learn from them.
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