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- From: gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: Sacrifice (was Re: Save the Planet ...)
- Distribution: world
- Message-ID: <725629772snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au>
- References: <1992Dec28.231813.4931@vexcel.com>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 11:49:32 GMT
- Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents
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- In article <1992Dec28.231813.4931@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com writes:
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- > >This idea of sacrifice is a real bun in the oven.
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- > I love these little idioms. No flame intended here, Gil. I guess that
- > non-US citizens must put up with endless idioms from us (without us
- > realizing it) so maybe this is a hidden reminder. In any case, maybe
- > you could enlighten me on this one?
-
- *Pregnant*, Dean. Wrought with difficulty.
- .
- .
- .
-
- Of course, the costs are not always
- > long-term, and Gil's focus as an ethnologist may be on large
- > costs being suffered in many areas today. If the ability of
- > humans to cause major changes in the biosphere were either smaller
- > or less predictable, it would not be an issue. Since our
- > technological and scientific capabilities seem to be increasing
- > the former faster than the latter, the issue of sacrifice to
- > avoid ill-defined costs may become more of a moral one than a
- > scientific one. And how humans deal with it will decide
- > whether scientists spend more time solving manmade problems or
- > preventing them.
-
- My focus as an ethnologist, as you might well have picked up by now,
- is *not* toward one social group somehow "qualified" or empowered to
- solve problems for other social groups, while remaining insulated
- from the risks those solutions might entail. The model is very much
- concerned with communities themselves taking back ownership of their
- own problems, that those who bear the brunt make the decisions; that
- is, those who will suffer most from the solution have the greatest say
- in whether it should be implemented.
-
- Of course there is a role for scientific and all other expertise in
- such a model, although as part of the community itself engaged in a
- direct discourse on reality with people who live in it, rather than
- cloistered in academe or as agents of government imposing legalised
- abstractions of reality on people, especially where those people have
- no right of protest at the effects.
-
- Big problems are solved in small local increments by real people with
- their sleeves rolled up, *not* by the latest Presidential New Deal, or
- by "environmental friendly" officials in the White House.
-
- People don't have to sacrifice anything, just get on with it and
- *benefit*, for the same reasons you wipe your arse whenever you go
- to the toilet, or wash the dishes, or do the household chores. It is
- just *housekeeping*, fundamentally, and if you don't want to do it
- then you have to live in the shit accumulated around you, yes?
-
- If you end up choking in it, more fool you.
-
- Gil
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