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- From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.energy
- Subject: Re: Yet Another Anti-Greenpeace Scenario From Thin Air
- Date: 28 Dec 1992 19:04:21 GMT
- Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
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- References: <29721@castle.ed.ac.uk> <1992Dec18.145351.19736@inel.gov>,<Jym.22Dec1992.1516@naughty-peahen>
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- In article <Jym.22Dec1992.1516@naughty-peahen>, Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu> writes:
- >> Now add in the fact that a clearly hostile ship (don't go and
- >> tell me that the GreenPeace ship was out there to protect the
- >> Japanese ship) . . .
- >
- >=+= The Greenpeace ship was out there to (1) draw attention to
- >the shipment and (2) find out the route that the shipment was
- >taking (since such was being kept from the public).
-
- Well, neither of these goals requires that the Greenhype ship be anywhere near
- as close as three miles to the ship transporting the plutonium. So why was the
- Greenhype ship so close? One has to suspect that they were going to try to
- approach to an unsafe distance from the transport ship then bleat "If we did
- it, terrorists could've done it." In the process of trying some damned fool
- stunt like that, they end up ramming the escort, and then bleat about the
- escort moving erratically. And of coiurse Jym Dyer buys into their win/win
- claim: If the escort prevents the Greenpeace ship from approaching the
- transport vessel, Greenhype bitches, and bleeding hearts like Jym Dyer deny
- that Greenpeace was doing anything wrong. If the escort vessel allows the
- Greenhype ship to approace the transport, Jym and other similarly credible
- fools will be convinced that the transport was open to attack by terrorists.
-
- >=+= This isn't being there "to protect the Japanese ship" (not
- >that anyone ever claimed it was), but neither is it "clearly
- >hostile" to do so.
-
- Trying to evade the escort and approach the transport is damned well a "clearly
- hostile" thing to do, you moron.
-
- >> The bottom line . . . is that GreenPeace was testing the
- >> Japanese escort ship much like the old Soviet Union naval
- >> ships would test the US Navy's carrier defenses by trying
- >> to purposely get their ships in our carrier's way.
- >
- >=+= As I said before, this is a scenario pulled from thin air.
- >Repeating it over and over doesn't add substance to it.
-
- OK. jackass: Suppose you provide some even remotely plausible reason for
- Greenhype's trying so diligently to approach the transport ship that they
- rammed the escort vessel? What the hell do you suppose they might've been
- trying to do?
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