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- From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
- Subject: Re: Sheep in Organizations
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.163701.29728@vexcel.com>
- Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
- References: <1992Dec23.163445.1@acad3.alaska.edu> <58003@dime.cs.umass.edu> <1992Dec24.161708.1@acad3.alaska.edu>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:37:01 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec24.161708.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
- >
- >Problem with what you are saying about land in trust and all that stuff, is
- >that is either fedalism in the old Norman model or god I hate to say it
- >Socialism.. Problme is we are supposed to be a democracy based on free person
- >and the ability to make wealth. Why would I go to the Welfare office? Im not a
- >brain dead pan handler from some parts of the US.. I work for my bread.
- >You must have me mistaken with some who lives back east.. As far as I know most
- >of the people I know work and find welfare a sad solution.
- >
- >Okay, if I go with what you are saying, next time you want to buy or
- >sell property (land I mean) all US citizens have the right to stop it.
- >Or at the minimum you need to get the Federal Governments okay to sell or buy
- >it.. Hum, maybe that is what we have, state feudalism.
- >
- >When the founding fathers started our nation is was becuase of economic
- >reasons, they were all land owners.. Do you think they would liek it that they
- >did not own the land, but were only borrowing it.. Read up what feudalism is
- >and you find what Im talking about..
- >
- >
- >Michael Adams
- >Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel
- >nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
-
- That most of Alaska's parks are so inaccessable demonstrates that they are
- more focused on habitat preservation that tourist recreation. In fact, I
- believe there is a controversy now about development in Denali between
- rangers and concessionaires.
-
- While Victor talks of holding land in trust, I think it is more accurate
- to say that a persons use of their land cannot infringe or harm others
- land, including wild lands. The problem is that we are learning more
- and more about new ways of harm - and this limits the landowners use
- in ways that nobody thought of previously. While Alaskan lands are
- vast (I have visited them many times), they are also fragile, and not
- on such a different scale when compared with the lower 48 west as a whole.
- And the lower 48 west was also once seen as endless. In Alaska,
- the real limitation has not been the scale, but the locale. Only so
- many people were willing to brave the conditions to exploit the land.
- With technology, there is more protection from the conditions and
- resource exploitation is a greater problem. I sympathize with the
- problems of individual landowners in Alaska who must deal with
- endless red tape. It is the large resource extraction companies
- that pose the problems, not the individual residents, by and large.
- --
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