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- From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: Re: Sheep in Organizations
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- Date: 25 Dec 92 13:25:05 GMT
- References: <1992Dec23.163445.1@acad3.alaska.edu> <58003@dime.cs.umass.edu> <1992Dec24.161708.1@acad3.alaska.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec24.161708.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
- >Problem with what you are saying about land in trust and all that stuff, is
- >that is either fedalism in the old Norman model or god I hate to say it
- >Socialism.. Problme is we are supposed to be a democracy based on free person
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- Is it your opinion that National parks are unconstitutional? There's no
- incompatibility between democracy and public ownership of some property.
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- >and the ability to make wealth. Why would I go to the Welfare office? Im not a
- >brain dead pan handler from some parts of the US.. I work for my bread.
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- You're asking for a handout. You want the general public to give you our
- property for your private benefit. Why the hell should we? There are
- millions of acres of privately held land in Alaska. Earn some money and
- buy some instead of trying to grab our public land.
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- >You must have me mistaken with some who lives back east.. As far as I know most
- Nah. I've run into plenty of people both in the East and the West who
- think that they deserve a big fat income courtesy of the public.
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- No. I mean that National Parks are for the benefit of all americans and
- public property should not be given away.
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- >When the founding fathers started our nation is was becuase of economic
- >reasons, they were all land owners.. Do you think they would liek it that they
- >did not own the land, but were only borrowing it.. Read up what feudalism is
- >and you find what Im talking about..
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- Tom Paine was not. Ever heard of him? But you should read some works by
- the founding fathers if you want to invoke them. For example, you might want
- to read Jefferson's letters to Monroe on land ownership. He explicitly
- dismisses the theory that ownership of land should entitle the land owner
- to use it up or to do with it whatever he/she pleases. Maybe Jefferson
- was a, god I hate to say it, *socialist*.
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