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- From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
- Subject: Re: Alliance for a Paving Moratorium (Alert)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.234735.21374@s1.gov>
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:47:35 GMT
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- I confess that I sometimes feel annoyed by Mike Vandeman's
- posts, because he sometimes sounds too much like some howling anti-car
- extremist. And this is despite my agreement with him on several
- essential points.
-
- I personally would prefer to try to make cars unnecessary for
- a large proportion of urban traveling, and to set up alternatives that
- are as clean, safe, fast, convenient, punctual, and jam-free as
- possible.
-
- I personally think Mike Vandeman and others like him could do
- a lot better job by pointing to successful public-transit systems
- rather than by doing little other than saying how bad the car is.
- Without presenting good alternatives in appropriately gory detail, the
- car is going to seem the lesser of all the evils.
-
- This is what I'd like to see:
-
- Comparing traveling between San Francisco and Oakland by BART
- and by car across the Bay Bridge. Which is more pleasant and less of a
- hassle? Since Clinton & Co. live in Washington, DC, now, one might
- think of some Washington Metro example for them.
-
- I must concede that a lot of public-transit systems have a
- host of unpleasant features. It is rare to find a city bus that has a
- pleasant ride, for example. Too many of them seem like some
- car-company conspiracy to make the alternatives seem utterly
- unpalatable.
-
- Rail vehicles are usually much more pleasant to ride in than
- buses, at least in my experience. But the problem with rail-transit
- systems is that the rail lines have to be built, and they usually have
- to be separated from all that flat-road traffic in some way to avoid
- being caught in traffic jams (the trolleys being stuck in traffic jams
- was the nemesis of many a trolley system, and it is not surprising
- that GM & Co. managed to get away with their scam of replacing
- trolleys with buses for as long as they did). And that requires
- _expensive_ construction if the rail vehicles are to travel any faster
- than buses. But once it's built... just to take one example, consider
- what some CalTrain champions propose as their service model: BART,
- despite their complaints about BART's cost.
- --
- /Loren Petrich, the Master Blaster
- /lip@s1.gov
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