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- From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment,ca.politics
- Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.010225.24185@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 01:02:25 GMT
- References: <1992Dec21.041755.4485@pbhye.PacBell.COM> <1992Dec22.004733.3897@megatek.com> <1992Dec22.033700.28258@s1.gov>
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- In article <1992Dec22.033700.28258@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec22.004733.3897@megatek.com> cjp@megatek.com (Chris "Systems Stud" Pikus) writes:
- >>mjvande@pbhye.PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman) writes:
- >: The
- >: answer is to apply appropriate taxes to the ownership, fuelling,
- >: and operation of automobiles and other motor vehicles,
- >: approximately in proportion to the damage they do.
-
- Interestingly enough, they do.
-
- >> You overlooked the fact that transportation is an integral
- >>part of our economy. Just about every good and service produced in
- >>the US requires some sort of transport to deliver it to the consumer;
- >>railroads and horse-drawn carts will not suffice. The ripple effect
- >>[trickle-down -- yes] of passing these taxes on to the consumer will
- >>shrink our economy down to a point sized singularity.
- >
- > Tax money does not disappear into a black hole, right-wing
- >economists to the contrary.
- >
- > Instead, it gets returned to the economy in the form of
- >various government expenditures. Whether these expenditures are
- >productive ones or not is another question entirely.
-
- It is a relevant question, and given the experience, it isn't
- unreasonable to go with a "tax money is just pissed away" assumption.
-
- > I myself am not opposed to cars; I just want alternatives to
- >them to be abundant and readily available. I also want to see it
- >possible to have a minimum dependence on the car. I don't own a car,
- >and I don't like being made into a second-class citizen by a bunch of
- >carheads.
-
- In other words, Petrich wants the rest of us to pay for our choices
- AND his choices. Some "second-class" citizen.
-
- -andy
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