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- From: bschlesinger@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Barry Schlesinger)
- Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:06:00 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec22.005642.16130@pbhye.PacBell.COM>, mjvande@PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman) writes...
- >-: Re: A Simple Way to Save the Economy, and the Planet, Too!
- >-:
- >-: Gentlemen:
- >-:
- >-: Believe it or not, there is a simple way to save our economy,
- >-: restore social equity, and save the planet, with one act!
- >-: ...
- > ...
- >- It is currently cheaper (in most urban areas) to commute
- >-via car than to use other means, and furthermore, most areas are
- >-underdeveloped with regard to mass transit. Suburb-to-suburb mass
- >-transit is woefully undeveloped, and due to the growth of the
- >-suburban business district and the decay of the central city business
- >-core (read "Edge City"), suburb-to-suburb commuting is at least on
- >-the same level as suburb-to-core. Until this inequities are addressed,
- >-simple taxing of car usage will only further add to the burden on the
- >-poor- and middle-classes.
- >
- >I'm not falling for that chicken-&-egg stuff.
-
- But you have to determine cause and effect. Treating the
- effect without addressing the cause will not be an effective or
- politically viable solution. What has happened in many areas has been
- development without thought to transportation. When most workplaces
- were centrally located, so that many people were making parallel trips
- to work, mass transit lines could be set up that would serve many
- people. But now, businesses have been scattered in the suburbs, so
- often there are many routes to work, each serving a small number of
- people. In such a case one cannot define mass transit routes that
- will attract significant ridership. And it is unfair to penalize
- people who have no practical choice but to drive.
-
- To encourage mass transit, one cannot simply impose rules on
- the existing traffic patterns. It is necessary to start at the time
- new development is being planned. An area plan must be developed in
- concert with a transportation plan, ensuring that when the commercial
- and residential development is complete, significant commuting
- will occur along a limited number of routes, which can be used for
- mass transit lines. Then, when mass transit is readily available, one
- can discourage use of cars by such steps as restricting parking in the
- commercial areas and making it expensive. Such measures also target
- those who actually have a reasonable mass transit alternative,
- without targeting the suburb-to-suburb commuters who have no choice.
-
- Sticking to the plans requires involvement. Once you have a
- plan, for example, many developers will follow the practice of buying
- land that (usually for good reasons) has been zoned low-density and
- getting it rezoned commercial, because the price is usually much
- lower than that for land designated commercial in the original plan.
- They use political clout to get these rezonings through. The result
- of this practice is a scattering of office parks and a diffuse flow
- traffic pattern that makes it impossible to design a mass transit
- network to serve a significant number of people effectively. Once the
- area is developed, it's too late to close the garage door.
-
- >Making it more expensive
- >to drive will cause some ex-drivers to begin asking for better
- >transit etc.
-
- No, they'll just throw the people who raised the rates out of office
- at the next election. So mass transit won't have been improved and
- the pro-car people will be back.
-
- >Now, they ignore it because it's "not their problem".
- >It is cheaper to use transit than to drive.$.39/mile, according to
- >the latest from the IRS (or the EPA?).
- >
-
- Two things here. We have to be careful about averages. For suburb to
- city commutes, mass transit will certainly be less expensive,
- particularly if parking in the city is costly. For suburb to suburb
- commutes, where parking is free and mass transit routes circuitous,
- the comparison tilts differently; it is closer. Average the two
- together and mass transit comes out ahead. The second point is the
- value of time. For many suburb to suburb commutes, the time by mass
- transit can easily be double that of automobile commuting, even after
- the delays from congestion are taken into account.
-
- just my views
- BMS
-