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- From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:43:08 GMT
- Subject: Re: Very sharp RF notch filter sought
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- Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
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- jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
-
- (with regard to using a stub as a notch filter:)
-
- >Depends on the Q of the transmission line. If very high quality coax,
- >hardline or even better, air hardline is used for the stub, it will be
- >quite narrow. My worry would be in making it too narrow for the
- >fairly wideband FM signal. For 2-way work, where the bandwidth is
- >much less, a piece of 1" CATV coax works just fine to notch out offending
- >intereference.
-
-
- Also depends on impedance levels. The depth of notch will depend
- on the Q (e.g., on the stub resistance at resonance, compared with
- the impedance of the line the notch is being put in. But off the
- notch frequency, the attenuation will depend more on the impedances
- of the lines involved. A moderate Q or a high Q stub of the same
- impedance line will each have nearly identical impedances 10% off
- resonance, but will have far different impedances at resonance.
-
- Also, most of the line loss in the stub at these frequencies will
- be copper resistance loss, not dielectric, so it's much more the
- diameter and length of the coax and the construction of the conductors
- than the dielectric, assuming polyethelene or Teflon or air (or vacuum
- ;-) dielectric, that's important in optimizing Q. Interestingly,
- polyethelene dielectric will cause the inner conductor to be smaller
- than air dielectric for a given impedance and outer conductor
- diameter, thus raising the loss, _but_ the length needed for 1/4
- wave at a given frequency will be less, so there will be less loss.
- It's left as an exercise for the reader to figure out which factor
- dominates. (Hint: does it vary with impedance? With frequency?)
-