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- Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 00:28:33 GMT
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- In article <51698@seismo.CSS.GOV>, stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) writes:
- >
- > In article <1992Dec22.204130.18133@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>, writes:
- > > In article <51694@seismo.CSS.GOV>, stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) writes:
- > > >
- > > > Flame on....rampant idiocy...real butt-head...butt-head...pup.
- > > >...remain ignorant...
-
- And when Stead actually mananges to make a point...
-
- Wait there's one here somewhere...
-
- > the way the molecules work is that you
- > must do work against the molecules to separate them, but once separated,
- > they snap back, releasing the acculmulated strain energy as heat. That's
- > right, energy is conserved, and a pile of shredded composite does not
- > represent more energy than the whole piece. Entropy simply means that
- > energy has been converted to heat.
-
- Unfortunately wrong, and very sloppy. Take a ream of paper and turn it into
- scraps and tell me you haven't expended energy. That energy came from the
- flywheel hense the fluff does not have the same energy as the initial flywheel.
- Energy has been used bending molecules, which may or may not snap back, but
- more significantly in breaking bonds which originally held the flywheel
- together. Now if you've got the inter fiber bond strength of a material of
- carbon carbon fibers we could use for a fly wheel, your a hell of a lot
- farther ahead that most in the carbon carbon field. Now is this energy enough
- to make the fluff safe, I don't know, that's why I asked. Remember that
- carbon carbon bonds are one of the strongest bonds around, thats why we
- want to use carbon carbon in the first place.
-
- > I repeat for the billionth time, energy is conserved!
-
- Can't you listen to your own point?
-
- >
- > > > I'm really tiring of this nonsense, so while I politely corrected the
- > > > first posters in their misconceptions - you get flamed, boy.
- > > >
- > > > > >My opinions are my own.
- > > >
- > > > Good thing - they're pretty damned stupid for anyone else.
- > >
- > > Gee thanks for your help in keeping this discussion open and moving forward.
- >
- > You're welcome. Why don't you try helping a bit instead of flaming
- > when you don't know what you're talking about.
- > --
- > Richard Stead
- > Center for Seismic Studies
- > Arlington, VA
- > stead@seismo.css.gov
-
- I guess you'd better keep your gov job. This sort of attack science doesn't
- cut it out here.
-
- Darin Olson
- R&DD
- LMSC
- Palo Alto, CA
-
- >
- >
-