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- From: king@reasoning.com (Dick King)
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- Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.215940.13504@kestrel.edu>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 21:59:40 GMT
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- In article <72055@cup.portal.com> lordSnooty@cup.portal.com (Andrew - Palfreyman) writes:
- >Frank E Perdicaro writes:
- >: As an interesting side light, the largest forging ever made is
- >: the largest flywheel ever that stores energy at MIT for the
- >: ALCATORC-MOD fusion reactor. It takes like 500 hp all night to spin it up,
- >: and 3 seconds to stop when the switch is flipped.
- >:
- >: Yeah, megajoules, many of them. If there was a quake when the thing
- >: was spinning, it would remove a large section of Cambridge.
- >:
- >: Its surface speed is just below the speed of sound, and it weighs like
- >: a very large steam locomotive ; and its right next to the FISSION
- >: reactor..... they know there is no way to stop it if there is a quake,
- >: so its just in a simple flimsy building.
- >
- >I have a problem with this; if v^2 ~= 1e5 (m/s)^2 and you've pumped in
- >about 3MJ, the mass must be about 60Kg for a disc shape. Perhaps the speed
- >is not nearly so high - this is hardly a locomotive weight!
- >(Hint: use Disc Energy = 0.5m(r*w)^2 and 1hp = 764W).
- >
-
- Nobody said 3MJ.
-
- 500 HP = 300 KW
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- 300 KW * 28800 seconds [all [the 8 hour] night] = 8640 megajoules.
-
- Mr. Perdicaro should perhaps have written "Yeah, GIGAjoules, several of them.".
-
- -dk
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