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- From: ghg@en.ecn.purdue.edu (George Goble)
- Subject: Re: Alternative refrigerants
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.142302.19880@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
- Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
- References: <1992Dec17.163059.62141@cc.usu.edu> <72070@cup.portal.com> <1992Dec22.074145.1@bb1t.monsanto.com>
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:23:02 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec22.074145.1@bb1t.monsanto.com> bjgaed@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:
- >In article <72070@cup.portal.com>, mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes:
- >> With regard to refrigerants and alternatives to fluorocarbons, there
- >> are many alternatives, though none combine the low flammability,
- >> low toxicity, and chemical inertness of the various fluorocarbon products
- >> (such as Freon).
- >>
- >[Discussion of alternative refrigerants deleted]
- >
- >At the Organic Reactions Catalysis Society meeting last spring a paper
- >was presented by Leo Manzer of DuPont on their work on developing an
- >alternative to chlorofluorocarbon refrigerants. Interest centers on
- >HFC-134a, CF3CFH2. Contains no chlorine. Targeted for the 1994-1996
- >time frame for phaseout of chlorofluorocarbons.
- >
- >--
- >--Electric Monk (Bruce Gaede);
- > e-mail: bjgaed@ccmail.monsanto.com
- >
- >"...and then time started seriously to pass."
- >--Douglas Adams, _Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency_
-
-
- R-134a needs new equipment to run. It is not miscible in R-12
- mineral oils. The PAG or Ester based oils used in R-134a equipment
- are destroyed by the slightest traces of refrigerants with chlorine
- (R-12 or R-22). R-134a has been found to cause testicle tumors in
- Rats at 5% conc. PAFT (program for Alternate Fluorocarbon Toxicity
- tests) released last Sept.
-
- Conferences have pointed out that attempts to "clean out" R-12 (CFC-12)
- equipment in order to convert it to R-134a have generally not
- worked very well. The few molecules of chlorides embedded in pipe
- walls, etc, still come back and start the breakdown of the lubricants.
- --ghg
-