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- From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
- Subject: Re: Direction of the sun
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.042604.9860@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
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- Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
- References: <1992Dec24.012636.17115@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:26:04 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec24.012636.17115@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
- >Two boys, A and B, are watching the sunset.
- >A points to the sun and says:
- >"This is the direction where the sun is right now."
- >B replies:
- >"But don't you know that the rays take over 8 minutes to reach the Earth?
- >The sun is actually already below the horizon."
- >Which is correct? Why? (Make it understandable to a ten year-old.)
-
- A is correct. The sun is always in the same place, and the Earth moves.
- So the horizon moves too, and "the point so-and-so distance below the
- horizon" is also a moving point.
-
- Therefore, it's meaningless to say that something is in a direction relative
- to the horizon unless you specify which horizon, since the horizon moves.
- The sun is indeed below the 8-minutes-from-now horizon, but you can't
- conclude this means it's below the current one.
-
- ># note: ignore subsidiary points like refraction by the atmosphere.
- >BONUS: What would the answer be under the Ptolemaic system?
-
- The sun would really be some distance from where it appears to be.
- --
- "the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
- the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
- disposed of." -- K. Eric Drexler
-
- Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu, arromdee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu)
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