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- From: Tim@f4229.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Tim)
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- Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
- Subject: Re: Heraldic questions...
- Message-ID: <726123493.F00001@ocitor.fidonet>
- Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 19:11:02
- Lines: 44
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- Hans Rancke wrote:
-
- HR> You may not have meant to do so, but that was certainly the impression I,
- HR> for one, got.
-
- Well, it was inaccurate.
-
- HR> Recalling as best I can without the original postings I think that
- HR> Arval argued that Corpora spoke of recreating aspects of the whole of
- HR> Western Culture and that consequently the heraldic styles of
- HR> Scandinavia, Germany, Hungary, Spain, Portugal, etc. were equally as
- HR> valid as the style you (that is, the Society) is currently
- HR> concentrating on (to the exclusion of these styles).
-
- One might just as well argue that our monarchs ought to be elected by our
- nobles, because the Empire and Poland were run that way.
-
- The point is that the "scope of the Society" covers a lot of time and a
- lot of area. If we try to "re-create" all of that all at once, then the
- resulting mishmash is nothing ever found in period, and so the underlying
- objective is not attained. There has to be a focus. My argument is, that
- having such a focus *in heraldry* is fully compatible with the purposes of
- the SCA as expressed in Corpora, and by no means will doing so crush out
- diversity in other areas, which is what Arval appears to be afraid of.
-
- HR> From your reply I gathered that you did not regard anywhere outside
- HR> your "core area" as _truly_ Western Culture (You certainly defined
- HR> Scandinavia as "barbarian fringe", a contention that I take issue
- HR> with, but will leave aside for the moment in the light of your new
- HR> message).
-
- Well, you gathered wrong. My apologies if I am being insufficiently
- articulate. The "core area" that I specified is certainly not the *whole*
- of "western culture", nor even the *focus* of "western culture", but it IS
- the focus of the aspects of "western culture" that we in the SCA are
- trying to emulate: the noble tourneying society of the High Middle Ages.
- The people who got together to hold the first backyard tournament didn't
- get together to hold a multicultural medieval Disneyland, they got
- together to hold an Arthurian-romance tournament, and there is going to be
- any consistency in the SCA that is the sort of focus that is essential.
-
- Tadhg, Obelisk
-
- * Origin: Herald's Point * Steppes/Ansteorra * 214-699-0057 (1:124/4229)
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