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- From: schuldy@progress.COM (Mark Schuldenfrei)
- Subject: Re: Annual Xmas Depression; moan, weep, gnash
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.221528.2510@progress.com>
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:15:28 GMT
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- Mikjal and I are having a public conversation: (M=Mikjal, T=Tibor)
-
- =-=-=-=
- T>I will point out that it is MUCH TOO LATE to change the laws of
- T>Drachenwald.
-
- M>Nonsense. While it may be too late to change the *initial* version, the
- M>first King and Queen of Drachenwald could institute a wholesale
- M>revision, if they wanted to. (Note: I don't expect that to happen.)
- M>No kingdom's laws are engraved by the finger of God in granite.
-
- Too true. Sorry. I thought you were asking specifically about
- changing the laws before Drachenwald becomes tradition. Sorry.
-
- =-=-=-=
- T>Corpora allows them
- T>to bestow Grants, but they didn't mention anything about them.
-
- M>Good for them! Corpora may allow it, but it's a modern creation of the
- M>SCA, with no basis in historical fact (not that the SCA has ever let
- M>that stop anything before).
-
- On the other hand, nothing is preventing a King or Queen from awarding
- one. I think, however, that the law should say so: No Grants of Arms,
- and people who move in to Drachenwald with GoA's should be treated as
- having AoA's in the Order of Precedence.
-
- =-=-=-=
- M>Name the last time that the East Kindgom held a Crown tourney in other
- M>than a double-elimination tree format. During the 4 years that I lived
- M>in Drachenwald, I think the format was not used on perhaps one
- M>occassion, when there were only 5 contestants (round robin was used,
- M>instead). It may not be in the laws, but it's become "tradition since
- M>the beginning of time".
-
- You asked about the Law, Mikjal. You are correct. On a Bertramesque tangent,
- what other forms of tournament are there, that meet a useful criteria. For
- example, just as fair, completable in a finite time frame, fun to particpate
- in... A judged tournament is period, but how do you make it fair enough?
- A round robin is fair, but how do you complete it in one day, with 80
- fighter's present?
-
- =-=-=-=
- T>The East Kingdom does not have standard oaths, so our former Principality
- T>has never been burdened by them. Hey, while your at it Mikjal, throw
- T>off *your* yoke...
-
- M>BTW, one of my projects as baronial herald for the upcoming year is to
- M>replace all of the ceremonial oaths used by Three Rivers with ones based
- M>on medieval models. Slowly, the yoke is being removed...
-
- Excellent, I am impressed. Does anyone have evidence that prewritten
- ceremonial oaths are more or less period that individualistic oaths?
- Oh, where is Sheik Hossein when we need him (I'm sending him a copy of
- this question in email...) I just wanna know which is more authentic:
- I have no idea. As usual, I'll bet the answer is "Where and when are
- you asking about?".
-
- Tibor
- --
- Mark Schuldenfrei (schuldy@progress.com)
- [I'm just showin' you my opinions: this ain't a gift]
-