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- From: schuldy@progress.COM (Mark Schuldenfrei)
- Subject: Re: Primitive FireArms
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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:42:37 GMT
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- Dan Sorenson (sorry, I've forgotten your SCA Name, and you didn't supply
- it this time) wrote:
- Where do we draw the line? The SCA does not, I'm told, allow
- firearms in contests, but a period firearm might be allowed on site if
- there are no laws against it and it is in persona.
-
- Well, I'm not aware of any SCA law that specifically disallows firearms.
- Did you have one in mind?
-
- As a mundane note, I'm an NRA and an SCA member, and I do
- not hope to see this discussion devolve into a "guns are dangerous
- and have no place in society" argument. For that, please mail me
- directly (viking@iastate.edu). Since they are period and interest
- has been shown, let's discuss a proper SCA regulation for them.
-
- Fair enough. But I do think that two background questions are in order,
- and I haven't the foggiest idea how to answer them. I hope my friends
- on this Rialto have some opinions to spare...
-
- 1. For many folks, especially the gentles who inhabit the crowded cities
- of the Northeast US, a gun is a scary object, a bugaboo, a taboo. For
- gentles from other parts of the world, a gun is just a special kind of
- tool. It's hard to make Society wide generalizations about a special
- kind of object, which produces a fearful or nervous response. Many of
- my friends would react to a gun the way they'd react to a bag of noxious
- waste: disgusted and repelled.
-
- These are decent people, of good will and intent, who don't want guns
- around. How can we address their needs, as well?
-
-
- 2. Similarly, for many gentles, despite the Period evidence, the SCA
- creates not any particular Time and Place, but a fantastical Laurel
- Kingdoms, closely modelled on the more Romantic notions of the Middle
- Ages, plus whatever pieces of authenticity suit their fancy. To many
- of these people, a period firearm is a complete destruction of their
- Arthurian notions. (Heck, I have a friend who feels that way about
- Tudor!)
-
- While the shooting and use of period firearms is, well, period, the
- noise and commotion of such firearms would disturb their recreations,
- even as it improves and enhances the recreations of other gentles.
- How do we introduce this recreation into the Society wide current
- Middle Ages, without really ruining the fun that already exists for
- some?
-
- -----
-
- My own take on this is much more ambiguous. I used to be phobic about
- guns: once I realized that was the depth of my reaction, I asked a friend
- (and his father, a US Army Gun Instructor, retired) to teach me to shoot.
- I have no desire to own a gun, neither am I opposed to them, nor afraid
- of them. Target shooting was fun, but not worth the time and money to
- me. I'm over that now, but I understand the phobic reaction.
-
- I have a profound respect for how disturbing many gentles would find
- period firearm sports, and a belief that most gentles couldn't tell
- the difference between points 1 and 2 above in their objections. I
- think it's introduction would disturb many of them greatly, but again,
- I think it would be fun.
-
- When it comes to the authenticity game, I believe slightly more strongly
- in the "I'll do my thing, you'll do yours" rule than I do in being
- authentic. Nevertheless, I thing authenticity is fun most of the time.
- I'm as authentic in my food and drink, brewing and heraldry as I can
- be, but my garb is not all that authentic as I lack the skill and
- inclination. I applaud authenticity in all it's forms, but find the
- fabric of the SCA culture to be occasionally quite fragile when stressed
- (especially along the Bias, heh heh).
-
- As such, I find a moral quandry in the introduction of a sport that
- would be more period, but also more disturbing to the many folks who
- practice the chaos that is the SCA, *as it currently exists*.
-
- How do we divide the baby?
-
- Tibor
- --
- Mark Schuldenfrei (schuldy@progress.com)
- [I'm just showin' you my opinions: this ain't a gift]
-