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- From: Howard.Gerber@f88.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Howard Gerber)
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- Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.soc
- Subject: Re: Bike paths
- Message-ID: <725076301.AA06846@urchin.fidonet.org>
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:41:26 -0500
- Lines: 58
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- John Ciccarelli talks about bike paths:
-
- JC> A) Freeway overcrossings ("bike/ped bridges")
- JC> B) Freeway undercrossings (usually along waterways)
- JC> C) Creek overcrossings (bridges) where no motor vehicle crossing
- exists
- JC> D) Short street-to-street connectors (e.g. between dead-ends)
- JC> E) Long street-to-street connectors (e.g. across fields)
- JC> F) Parking-lot connectors
-
- I'm glad to see that Palo Alto has found a way to make some useful
- bicycle
- facilities, but most of us wouldn't classify those as bike paths. All
- the
- bike paths in Houston, on the other hand, are of the purely
- recreational
- variety.
-
- JC> Agreed -- I don't know of any "bike-only" paths. "Bike paths" is
- a
- JC> misnomer because keeping peds off them is unenforceable.
- "Mixed-use" is
- JC> more accurate.
-
- This is exactly what we hear from the City of Houston; thus they go out
- of
- their way to make such paths more desirable to pedestrians, and less
- desirable
- to cyclists.
-
- JC> Construction funding grant applicants must usually state that they
- have the
- JC> money to maintain the project once constructed. Cities assign
- different
- JC> sweeping policies: streets usually get swept weekly or biweekly.
-
- What a novel idea, sweep bike paths. This is unheard of in most
- cities.
-
- JC> Methinks you exaggerate. While I often reduce speed on off-street
- paths
- JC> and shortcuts, the distance saved or traffic avoided often makes
- them
- JC> attractive.
-
- I have yet to find a bike path that saved any time.
-
- JC> I've gotten more flats on-street than on the little off-street path
- riding
- JC> I do, maybe perhaps because people around here throw (and break)
- glass
- JC> bottles from cars more than on paths.
-
- I have exactly the opposite experience. I had four flats this year,
- over a
- 10,000 mile riding distance. Three of those flats were on short bike
- paths.
-
-