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- From: young@tellabs.com (Craig Young)
- Subject: Re: Ribbon Forever
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.142941.23937@tellab5.tellabs.com>
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- References: <1992Dec16.111139.11647@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1992Dec22.214222.2043@spang.Camosun.BC.CA> <1992Dec24.101319.1010@cmkrnl.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:29:41 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec24.101319.1010@cmkrnl.com> jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
- >In article <1992Dec22.214222.2043@spang.Camosun.BC.CA>,
- > dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker) writes:
- >> jeh@cmkrnl.com wrote:
- >>
- >> > Maggie owners tend to LOVE their speakers.
- >> > I used to love mine.
- >> > However I've since switched back to cones (Vandersteen 2ci, later augmented
- >> > by the 2w subwoofer).
- >> > I really like the soundstaging and "transparency" that Magnepans deliver.
- >> > However... as Corey Greenberg put it recently in _Stereophile_: Panel
- >> > speakers don't rock, and never will.
- >> > Translated, this means that they compress dynamic range.
- >>
- >> Is he the one who can't write a coherent sentence in English?
- >
- >He writes many complete and coherent sentences. Some of them rely a lot on
- >current popular usage and so may be difficult to follow, or even annoying, if
- >your only experience with English is from reading a junior-high grammar text.
- >Or if you're William Safire.
- >
- >> I have a pair of Apogee Stages: sure they are a little light in the
- >> deep bass, but I'm sure the Divas or the Stage subwoofer would correct
- >> that.
- >
- >Yup. Like I said....
- >
- >> Otherwise they are simply the finest speakers I have heard, for
- >> any kind of music.
- >
- >The real trouble with panel speakers is that there are so many things that they
- >do "appealingly" -- not necessarily "right" -- that they lead you to not pay
- >attention to what they're doing wrong.
- >
- > --- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
- >Internet: jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
- >Uucp: ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
-
- A lot of the planar versus cone debate really distills down to how important
- the listener considers correct mid and high frequency reproduction versus deep
- bass performance. I am a professional musician who has owned cone type speakers
- for many years. There was always a "cup" or "aw" sounding coloration in the
- sound that does not exist in live symphonic sound. I switched to a pair of
- Apogee Centaurs about a year ago, precisely because they (along with the other
- full-range ribbon speakers that Apogee makes) do not exhibit this coloration in
- their sound. They have the most neutral, open mids and highs that I have ever
- heard in a speaker (I listened to a lot of speakers when I was shopping,
- including Vandersteen 2ce and 3, Thiel CS2.2s, B&W 801, 802, 804 and DM640, PSB
- Stratus Gold, KEF, Infinity Renaissance 90, among others).
-
- I do not think, however, that planar speakers are for everybody. The Apogee
- Stage / Apogee subwoofer combination would probably be the closest that a
- planar speaker would come to satisfying both camps. As Mr. Barker notes, most
- planars are a little light in the deepest bass without adding a subwoofer. It
- really becomes a question of what tradeoffs you personally can live with.
-
-