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- From: nau@ssesco.com (William Nau)
- Subject: Re: Carver and the FAQ
- Message-ID: <BzqB8w.88B@ssesco.com>
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- Organization: SSESCO
- References: <92357.203715U37426@uicvm.uic.edu> <92357.185145YKWON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:22:04 GMT
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- In article <92357.185145YKWON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, Youngjoon Kwon (415)926-2761 <YKWON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
- |> Please challenge me if I am wrong!
-
- [pulls out white glove and slaps Youngjoon with it] I challenge
- you.
-
- |> To my best knowledge, the reason "high-end" people do not
- |> like Carver product is they are not well-received by such
- |> underground magazines as Stereophile. And the reason
- |> Stereophile hates Carver (product?) is becasue of the
- |> Carver challenge, in which Carver claimed and demonstrated
- |> that he can imitate the sound characteristic of any very
- |> expensive power amps by adjusting the "transfer functions"
- |> using his <$1000 power amp.
-
- Firstly, Stereophile is hardly and underground mag. Snobby? Well ok,
- it might be snobby, but not underground.
-
- Does Sterophile hate Carver? Who cares if they do or not.
-
- I was not a fan of Carver long before picking up my first copy of
- a high end mag. I used to like Carver until I started to compare
- it to other amps in the same price range. I found so many others
- that sounded much better to my ears. Carver makes a much better
- amp than Sony or Pioneer, but not near as good as Hafler or
- Parasound (to my ears anyway).
-
- |> By the way, I read all about this in the "audio update"
- |> column of the "Radio Electronics" magazine.
- |> For me, personally; I think Carver's sound just fine...
-
- Then you have found the right amp for yourself.
-
- |> And, I can't find any reason why Carver stuffs should
- |> be bashed among the audiophiles...
-
- I think a lot of it is that Carver keeps claiming that they
- can beat any amp at any price. They make an Ok amp in their
- price range and that's fine. However, they run around telling
- everyone that their $700 amp can beat any $10,000 amp. That's
- an attitude that pisses off peole who know better.
-
- If his <$1000 amp is so good, why does he make a pair of tube
- monoblocks for $20,000?
-
- Not only does it piss off a lot of people that he has this
- attitude, but that he convinces so many other people of it.
- He convinces them so well that they won't even listen to
- other amps. They see him as kind of a con man.
-
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- William R. Nau
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