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- From: jern@visual1.jhuapl.edu (Bob Jernigan)
- Subject: Re: Grammar
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.170729.15527@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
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- Reply-To: jern@visual1.jhuapl.edu (Bob Jernigan)
- Organization: Johns Hopkins University
- References: <18872@mindlink.bc.ca>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:07:29 GMT
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- In article <18872@mindlink.bc.ca>, Crawford_Kilian@mindlink.bc.ca (Crawford Kilian) writes:
- |> Bob Jernigan expresses surprise that Latin does not allow split infinitives,
- |> and asks whether grammar police are lurking in the woodwork...sad proof that
- |> we should have kept Latin in the curriculum, so Bob and others would have
- |> learned that Latin infinitives are single words, just as they are in French
- |> and Spanish, so you don't need "grammar cops" any more than you need gravity
- |> cops.
- |>
- |> While many of our verbs come from Latin (often via French), the rule against
- |> split infinitives appears to have been a matter of slavish obedience to the
- |> forms of a foreign language. A sensitive stylist will split an infinitive
- |> like kindling if it helps the rhythm and flow of the sentence, or keep the
- |> "to" and the verb together for the same reason.
- |>
- |>
- |> --
- |> Crawford Kilian Communications Department Capilano College
- |> North Vancouver BC Canada V7J 3H5
- |> Usenet: Crawford_Kilian@mindlink.bc.ca
- |> Internet: ckilian@first.etc.bc.ca
- |>
- Hmm...
- " Crawford Kilian Communications Department Capilano College"
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- Mr. Crawford Kilian, of the Communications Department(sic), is mistaken.
- What was really posted? Quote:
- .......... begin original post....
-
- |>
- |> One theory that I've heard proposed as to why English does not allow
- |> split infinitives is that Latin does not allow split infinitives, and
- |> many of our verbs are taken from Latin.
-
- Allow? Are there grammar police lurking in the woodwork? Grammar
- is not jurisprudence.
-
- ...........end original post....
-
- Bob Jernigan did NOT "express surprise that Latin does not allow." There
- is a difference between "allow" and "can't". The question is not one of
- no possibility, associated with "can't", but rather whether grammar
- dictates what is allowed, which is associated with possibility.
-
- Mr. Kilian further uses his garbled premise and "sad proof that we
- should have kept Latin in the curriculum." Perhaps we should have
- also kept logic in the curriculum so that Mr. Kilian would have been
- able to keep his syllogism untangled. It has been 37 years since my
- last Latin class so my Latin is a bit rusty. As for my French and
- Spanish, and for that matter German, I have a little more currency.
-
- bob
-