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- From: amym@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Amy Moseley Rupp)
- Subject: Re: "my wife and I are pregnant", revisited
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.211439.5543@oakhill.sps.mot.com>
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:14:39 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec22.171349.28568@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> slg@slgsun.att.com (The Idealistic Cynic) writes:
-
- >*Everything* was in her name, regardless of which one of us talked to
- >the person involved -- even in the more liberal places, and even when
- >it was for information only! If I called asking for information, they
- >wanted my wife's name. Every time. Seriously -- in not a single case
- >involved with the pregnancy did anything I requested or registered for
- >stay in my name; they *always* requested my wife's name and we were
- >registered by her name.
-
- I agree with most of your post, but I have to take exception to this.
- Things like childbirth classes probably should be registered in the
- couple's name, but there are some things that should not be. In
- this age of single motherhood, there is ALWAYS a mother involved
- in childbirth, but only SOMETIMES a father. It's easier for recordkeeping
- to just keep the mom's name, although I believe that the effort to keep
- both names should be made. Not that the dad should not be involved;
- it's strictly a recordkeeping thing, like having my husband listed in
- the phone book without my name, although I help pay the bill!
-
- Secondly, however much anyone wants to change the fact, the woman
- is the medical patient, with rights of privacy. It is her name that
- rightfully should go on all medical-related stuff. When I had
- my daughter, it was not my husband who had to: weigh in check blood
- pressure pee in this cup this gel will be cold press this button
- when you feel the baby kick I'm sorry you'll have to stay in bed
- for the next four weeks you can't take this medicine you're pregnant
- I'm going to induce labor I'm hooking you to an IV I'm sticking you
- 5 times for a blood test Let me check your dilation I'm breaking
- your waters Let me catheterize you. He was not the patient.
-
- And finally it was me and not my husband who was strapped to
- an OR table and carved open. I wish it WAS him but it wasn't.
-
- I'm not trying to be hostile, only trying to emphasize that
- in some way, the HUGE contribution of the pregnant woman must be
- recognized via semantics. As they say, the man is involved the
- woman is committed. If the man decides to run off to Bora Bora,
- he's off the hook. (for the pregnancy/l&d etc)
- If the woman goes, she's simply pregnant in
- Bora Bora instead of wherever she was--she still has to go through
- pregnancy/labour/delivery/recovery.
-
- The man deserves 'credit' too, but I don't think it has to be in
- the form of 'we're pregnant' or having their name on all forms.
- Because the concept of having men involved with their partners'
- pregnancies is so new, the language has not evolved to fit the
- situation. I think 'pregnant' is a word best reserved for the
- woman. There needs to be a new word, I guess, for the 'pregnant'
- father. It's too bad 'expecting' is looked upon as a 50's
- euphemism because it really does describe the couple better
- than 'pregnant' does.
-
- My $0.02, no flames intended.
- --
- Amy Moseley Rupp Mother to Elizabeth AnneMarie,
- amym@oakhill.sps.mot.com born 11/4/92
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