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- From: carolh@xilinx.com (Carol Hatcher)
- Subject: NO
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.182836.349@xilinx.com>
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- Organization: Xilinx Inc.
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:28:36 GMT
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- >>As for the kids, most of the smaller ones that appear on that show tend
- >>to come accross as shy, needing prompting from the adults or muppet
- >>characters. Sassy? What sassy? Where sassy? I have to ask myself what
- >>the educator meant who said this. Depending on the adult, some consider
- >>jokes, playing, or even asking questions about what's going on to be
- >>sassy (i.e., bad behavior); others are more reasonable/lax, and don't
- >>consider it sassy unless it's very rude or disruptive. This confusion in
- >>definition may be what the problem is here.
- >
- >This reminded me of a conversation I had with a boy at the mall a few
- >months ago. My husband and 3 year old son, Thomas, were getting their
- >hair cut. There was a little boy (maybe 5-6) there waiting for his
- >mother. Thomas was talking to me and I asked him a question
- >(can't remember now what), and Thomas answered "No" in a very matter-
- >of-fact voice. He wasn't being nasty or "sassy", just expressing
- >disagreement. Well, this little boy got real upset and said "He
- >said a nasty word!! Aren't you going to punish him??". When I asked
- >him what word, he said that "no" is a nasty word that his mother never
- >allows him to say!!! I was shocked!!! Has anyone else ever heard of
- >this? I could understand it if Thomas had said, in a very nasty tone,
- >"NOOO" (like he does sometimes), to something I told him to do, but
- >evidently, this little guy was NEVER allowed to say no to his mother.
- >What do you all think, isn't it important to let kids know they can have
- >opinions that don't always conform to others? Isn't it important to
- >let them express themselves and convey what they think? Are they any
- >of you out there that agree with not allowing a child to say "no"?
- >
- >Marian Dabay
- >
-
- Depends. By discouraging certain words and phrases and substituting
- others in their place, you can help a child/person modify their
- behavior and thinking. (see _1984_ by George Orwell) For example, we
- discourage the phrase, "I can't do <x>" from being said by our
- daughter. We encourage her to say, "I need help to do <x>" instead.
- This helps her direct her thoughts constructively. However, we don't
- label the "can't" phrase as "nasty" and punish her for it! That
- doesn't seem useful to me.
-
- I do agree that children should be able to convey what they think and
- that they may disagree with others. However, there are multiple
- methods for doing this. Perhaps the above boy was merely being
- directed to say more than just "NO" all the time, ie, instead of saying
- "NO", he is supposed to say, "I want to do <X> instead". This would
- help him be more communicative of what he wants and help him to be more
- positive. Perhaps the kid got too enthusiastic following the "Just say
- NO" campaign. Kids can be SO literal.
-
- NO does have its place in anyone's vocabulary, though. It is a
- succinct expression of the negative. I quick, firm NO ends the
- discussion.
-
- On the other side, I know of a family where the father does not allow
- anyone to say NO in ANY form to his child. He feels that this
- discourages creativity. As far as I can see, it has created an
- undisciplined child.
-
- Just my two cents worth.
- Carol S.W. Hatcher
- Xilinx, Inc.
- carolh@xilinx.com
-
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- The New Testament offers the basis for modern computer coding theory,
- in the form of an affirmation of the binary number system.
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- But let your communication be Yea, yea; nay, nay: for
- whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
- -- Matthew 5:37
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