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- Subject: Re: What good is a non-deductible IRA?
- Path: sparky!uunet!sci34hub!cdthq!gary
- From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
- Message-ID: <VHyNwB4w161w@cdthq.UUCP>
- References: <1992Dec31.010001.2364@cs.yale.edu>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 14:23:30 CST
- Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers
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- blenko-tom@CS.YALE.EDU (Tom M. Blenko) writes:
-
- > Bill "Bill" Tuthill writes
- > | Is is my view that non-deductible IRAs are nearly worthless. Since
- > you
- > | get charged a 10% penalty for early withdrawal, the money is
- > basically
- > | stuck there until you reach the age of 59 .
- >
- > I am a student on a stipend and therefore see a lower tax
- > rate than if I were employed. Assuming that my tax rate
- > will by higher when I retire, it makes sense for me to
- > contribute to an IRA now and to take no deduction -- a good
- > part of the benefit arises from the differential in the
- > tax rate (between now and when I retire). I haven't worked
- > out the figures, but I suspect this becomes advantageous
- > even if I end up paying an early withdrawal penalty
- > (sometime after my tax rate goes up).
-
- Not quite. The withdrawl is counted as *ordinary income*, just
- as if your paycheck got bigger; i.e., you're taxed at your rate
- at the time of the withdrawl. The last thing you want to do is
- wait until your rate goes up before making an early withdrawl.
-
- > I believe the same reasoning works for anyone who expects
- > there tax rate to be higher when they retire.
-
- Sorry, I see no rationality to this--you're not taking into account
- the additional returns from the deferred contributions. If you
- qualify for a deferred IRA, by all means use it. Put the money
- you'd have paid in taxes into another investment. Run some numbers
- and see how things look--and remember that nobody has the foggiest
- idea what the tax code will look like in 20 years, much less the
- changes that'll happen in the 35-40 years before you retire...
-
- Oh, don't forget to figure inflation into your number crunching.
-
- Gary Heston, at home....
- gary@cdthq.uucp
-