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- From: McAldon International Inc. <mcaldon@igc.apc.org>
- Newsgroups: misc.invest
- Date: 23 Dec 92 00:05 PST
- Subject: Re: street name vs delivery
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- Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!mcaldon Dec 23 00:05:00 1992
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- |I've noticed that I very infrequently receive quarterly and annual reports
- |from Pacific Brokerage Service (PBS). I called this morning to find out
- |whether it mattered if the securities are held in a margin account, cash
- |account or if I take delivery. The answer is that quarterly report forwarding
- |is very sporadic and it is best to take delivery of the certificates.
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- IMHO, this is one way a deep discount broker cuts costs. On the other
- end of the price scale, full-service brokers send you all the reports
- and proxies issued. Not all companies issue the full complement of
- reports, I've found.
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- |So now I'm considering taking delivery of the certificates and weighing the
- |pros and cons. I'm wondering about the incoonvenience of having to send the
- |certificates in when I sell. Are you supposed to send them certified mail?
- |(If so, that would mean going to the post office every time I sold a stock.
- |This is much more inconvenience than just dropping the certificates in a mail
- |box.) Has anyone ever had any problem if they didn't use certified mail?
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- I took delivery for years and it's a big nuisance unless the broker has a
- nearby office where you can drop them off. Otherwise the usual precaution
- is to send the ctf. and an executed stock power in separate mailings. I
- don't know current law but at one time losing a ctf. was a huge bother. But
- I don't believe brokers use certified mail for ctfs.
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- |What happens if a certificate is lost or stolen while in my possession. I
- |know you should have the certificate numbers recorded somewhere in case this
- |happens, but how much pain is involved in replacing the certificates?
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- I never lost one but I think years ago you had to post a bond to get
- a ctf. replaced.
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- I've identified the following pros and cons for deciding whether to take
- delivery of stock certificates.
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- |pros: * more timely dividends
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- The dividends should arrive at the brokerage at least as quickly as in
- your mail box. I presume you're referring to delay from the broker to you.
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- | * quarterly and annual reports
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- see above
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- | * no hassle or illiquid positions if the brokerage firm goes under
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- This is certainly true. Another advantage is that having the ctfs.
- on hand allows you to start a DRIP.
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- |cons: * inconvenience of sending certificates back in
- | * risk of losing certificates
- | * securities cannot be margin collateral
- |
- |Does you know of any others?
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- No.
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- |For example, if I like to write calls against long stock positions, will the
- |borkerage firm think I am trying to write a naked call if I don't have the
- |securities on deposit with them? Will they refuse to sell my call?
- |Aaron "hates these life or death decisions :)" Schindler
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- I wouldn't deal with a broker who treated me like this. DMcKenzie
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- | mcaldon@igc.org | Opinions dispensed herein not guaranteed |
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