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- From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
- Subject: Re: America doesn't have a clue: (was DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.163947.1554@island.COM>
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- References: <1992Dec28.190946.12722@netcom.com> <1992Dec29.164957.2067@island.COM> <1992Dec30.011051.23413@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:39:47 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec30.011051.23413@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec29.164957.2067@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
- >>Tanaka, became BY FAR the most powerful man in Japan even AFTER while time in
- >>jail (the "shadow Prime Minister") which continued until he suffered a stroke
- >>in 1985. He was not, seemingly, too severely punished for taking a bribe from
- >>a foreign company. And BTW, Tanaka NEVER acknowledged he was wrong.
- >
- >"In jail" means in custody.
-
- He was held in Saitama, in prison. Don't remember how long.
-
- >And the trial is still in the appeal court (supreme court).
- >The lower two courts ruled Tanaka guilty.
- >But even if so, he would serve about a 4-year sentence at most.
-
- Probably "suspended for 5". Not a criticism (except in this one case), merely
- pointing out that, especially for non-violent crimes, Japanese sentences are
- routinely held in abeyance, if the criminal behaves himself.
-
- >During that (and a certain following) period, he would be deprived of
- >all electoral rights. But rumor says that had he not appealed and
- >served the sentence as a "sanctioning period"; he would have long
- >since revived as an ever powerful figure :-<
-
- Ah, but he WAS the most powerful man in Parliament for years after having been
- forced to resign, being put in prison (briefly), being convicted, etc. The guy
- was harder to get rid of than Rasputin.
-
- >In reality, he has maintained his parliament seat, surviving several
- >elections (some of them with a landslide). This reflects the loyal
- >attitude of his electoral district (Niigata 3-ku) towards him;
- >which IMO is disgraceful -- ever more so since his current health
- >condition inhibits him from serving any public service (be it good
- >or bad).
- >
- >>His legacy still lived on in a) the mess of the current LDP b) the failure to
- >>this day to open the second runway in Narita c) the ever increasing role of
- >>money in Japanese politics d) his hand-picking of the next few Prime Minister's
- >
- >I'm not sure of his affluence in b) -- agreed with the others.
-
- The land grab by Tanaka and his friends in the LDP, just prior to the
- announcement of a new airport, the reaction of the people in the area when they
- found out, Tanaka's hard-line stance, the hard-line stance of the opposition,
- etc. If your point was that it was not entirely Tanaka's fault, yeah, you're
- right.
-
- Mike
-
- --
- Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
- one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
- deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
- conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
-