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- From: krvw@cert.org (Kenneth R. van Wyk)
- Newsgroups: comp.virus
- Subject: Administrative: The vote count, changes for 1993
- Message-ID: <0001.9212212018.AA02123@barnabas.cert.org>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 19:50:29 GMT
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- On 10 December, I asked the group to vote on whether or not vendor
- support questions should be allowed on VIRUS-L/comp.virus. The
- official vote is:
-
- barnabas% scan +vl/vote/support-yes | wc -l
- 122
- barnabas% scan +vl/vote/support-no | wc -l
- 8
-
- Which translates to 122 in favor of allowing vendor support questions
- to 8 against.
-
- Now, before either "side" gets bent out of shape, I'd like to try to
- accomodate everyone as well as I can. Let me elaborate... In
- addition to the votes that I got, I received numerous suggestions.
- Many of the people that were in favor of support questions were in
- favor of them as long as they don't get carried away. Also, most of
- the people that said that they were against the questions said that
- they didn't want the forum to be exclusively a support forum.
- I believe that we can come pretty close to making everyone happy if we
- make a compromise or two. Here's what I suggest:
-
- o Product-specific questions will be accepted.
- o Follow-up discussions will be rejected, with the exception of
- problem resolution summaries. Meaning, people posting product
- questions should carry subsequent related discussions on via e-mail;
- once the problem has been resolved, a summary of the solution can be
- posted to the group.
- o Summary postings will be accepted from the vendor or the original
- author of the question. (If both are submitted, the author's will
- be accepted over the vendor's.)
- o People asking these questions are encouraged to summarize and post
- the replies that they receive.
-
- o Product announcements will be accepted, although I again request
- that contributors make every effort to announce their wares
- objectively and as non-commercially as possible (e.g., please avoid
- pricing charts, blatant commercialism, discounting structures).
- Announcements that I feel go beyond this fine (subjective) line will
- be returned to the contributor, along with an explanation.
- (BTW, I am listing this as a separate item because it is not the
- same as a product _support_ question, IMHO. Nonetheless, many of
- you mentioned that you still want to see product announcements.)
-
- Not every situation is going to fit neatly into the above scenario, of
- course. Also, I can't guarantee that I will reject every
- support-related follow-up, but I will try. The sorts of follow-up that
- I will specifically reject include messages such as, "what version
- are you running?", "did you try X?", "that product is garbage, try ABC
- instead.", etc. Please don't expect me to be an e-mail forwarder for
- these postings - send them directly to the person that asked the
- question. When I reject a posting, I delete it.
-
- I hope that the above scenario will be acceptable to most everyone.
- As always, I'm open to other suggestions.
-
-
- Now, on to 1993 and Volume 06. In addition to the vote, I have
- received numerous suggestions for changes to the format for 1993.
- Most of the suggestions were well thought out and would benefit the
- group, so I'd like to implement those which are feasible. They
- include (so far - there will probably be more to come):
-
- o Digest ordering will be non-PC first, and then PC issues, followed
- by general discussions, reviews, etc., (as before). The rationale
- for this is that PC questions make up by far the highest percentage
- of traffic on this group, so it is easier for the non-PC people and
- only slightly more difficult for the PC people to find the articles
- that they are interested in. Comp.virus readers should not find
- things any easier or more difficult.
- o I am going to _strongly_ recommend that anyone affiliated with an
- anti-virus vendor state so clearly in the text of every message
- submitted. Obviously, this is impossible to police with 100%
- effectiveness. However, I do know most of the "players" in this
- community and will politely reject postings from people that I know
- are, or are found to be, affiliated with vendors and do not disclose
- the fact in their postings. This is not intended to bias the group
- away from vendors; indeed, vendor contributions here are (for the
- most part) greatly appreciated. Instead, my intent is to help the
- readers be aware of whose postings they are reading. As with other
- forums, disclaimers are quite acceptable, as long as they accompany
- a statement of affiliation.
-
- That's all for now. Happy holidays to all (particularly those that
- are celebrating holidays 'round about now - otherwise, um, happy
- solstice :-).
-
- Cheers,
-
- Ken
-
- Kenneth R. van Wyk
- Moderator VIRUS-L/comp.virus
- Technical Coordinator, Computer Emergency Response Team
- Software Engineering Institute
- Carnegie Mellon University
- krvw@CERT.ORG (work)
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