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- From: tagoldth@spine.med.utoronto.ca (Thomas A. Goldthorpe)
- Subject: Re: Is Sun losing touch with its customers?
- Organization: University of Toronto
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:48:27 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec22.080719.16062@eskimo.com> johnn@eskimo.com (John Navitsky) writes:
- >Another thought, there was resitance when Sun moved from the Sun3 to the Sun4
- >class machines, but I don't hear a lot of calls for the new
- >Sun 3/5000 server. :-) I think in the end people thought it was for the
- >best.
-
- That move still hurts those who know a 68040 is in the same
- performance class as a SS2. The move was not for our benefit, but
- rather for the benefit of SUN. They were claiming (if I remember
- correctly) that motorola wasn't producing the new processing power
- they wanted and that they had no choice but to create their own chip.
- Though it sounded reasonable to the bulk of the masses, the fact is
- they had to have been working on the project far far far in advance of
- when we found out about it, which means before the statement of
- motorola not producing new faster chips existed. The sparc stuff was
- politically motivated to make things look good and that sun did it's
- homework. They wanted to make sure that the consumer of the product
- got a statement of "we are doing this for you and your horsepower
- needs" rather than "we want to dominate the market and the only way to
- do this is to look good by having our own processor chip".
-
- It's for the best that you move with the flow, not that the decisions
- the flow takes are the best. We really have no choice in the matter.
- This is what you get when good engineering is dominated by
- businessmen. This is what sun now is (as compared to the old
- philosophy of "put a good unix box on every desk, this is what the
- world needs").
-
- I have no choice but to buy SparcIntosh (tm) machines these days,
- simply because this is what sun puts out. I will eventually have to
- buy into the sunos5.0 stuff, since this is what they will keep fixing
- (for the time being, at least). I have no choice since the
- businessmen around me say that "if businessmen at sun said so, then do
- it".
-
- No net flames in this matter, please. This is my view of the matter,
- and some may agree/disagree. My only hope is they don't switch
- something on us again.
-
- Suggestion to someone at sun: How about making a plug-over board that
- replaces a 680x0 with a sparc+cache. Since sun style devices are
- still supported, this would be a good way to go (and would probably
- make quite a bit of money (incentive for the businessmen at sun:-) )).
- Who knows, they may even be able to do this on a single chip with the
- correct pinouts, sell them at $500 each, and away we go....
-
-
- tom
-
- I speak for noone but myself. All views expressed above are mine
- only. Gee, it's great to vent frustration once and a while....
-