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- From: shopsis@panther.adelphi.edu (Charles Shopsis)
- Subject: Stacker 3.0 read errors: Summary
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:47:14 GMT
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- Earlier this week, I posted a message about read errors that I
- encountered after upgrading from Stacker 2 to stacker 3. I
- received a number of responses from people having similar
- problems, and two suggested solutions. The first one is the one
- I tried (deleting the /EMS on the stacker command line, so that
- stacker does not try to cache in expanded memory) and it did the
- job. Following are the two suggested solutions and messages from
- other sufferers of the problem.
-
- Thanks for your responses. The net is wonderful!
- Charles Shopsis, Dept. Chemistry, Adelphi University
- shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu or shopsis@panther.adelphi.edu
-
-
-
- 1. From: bing@zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu (Bing Ho)
- My friend recently bought Stacker 3.0 and managed to figure out
- what was wrong (at least for his machine). He mentioned that the
- use of a 386 memory manager and running Stacker 3.0 with the /ems
- option caused disk read/write errors. He switched to the upper
- memory or conventional memory configuration and mentioned that
- any problems were completely fixed.
- I think that Stacker 2.0 had this problem with qemm as well, but
- it was less frequent.
-
- Bing Ho
- bing@zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley
-
-
- 2. From: {rlb534@ibm-03.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil}
- To get rid of you problem use the /nb option on the stacker.com
- line in your config.sys like below:
- devicehigh=c:\stacker\stacker.com c:\stacvol.dsk d:\stacvol.dsk
- /p=5 /nb
- If you call stacker they should send you a maintenance release of
- Stacker 3.0 that fixes this problem.
- Rick Beem, Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division
- rlb534@ibm-03.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil
-
-
-
- 3. From: joee@cabezon.uucp (Joe Eckardt)
- This sounds exactly like the problem I've been having with
- Stacker V2.1!
- I just ordered a copy of V3.0 in the hopes that it would fix the
- problem.
- In my case I had the feeling it was an interaction between
- Stacker, SpeedStor V6.1.7 (disk partitioning driver), and QEMM
- V6.01.
- The worse part is I can't even back up my disk to tape
- successfully without getting these "Read Errors". At this point,
- if I could just get the system backed up I'd trash Stacker. My
- system USED to be stable as a rock -- I haven't been able to get
- anything constructive done in three months now.
- Joe Eckardt Logic Modeling Corporation
- (formally Logic Automation Incorporated)
- joee@lmc.com
-
-
-
- 4. From: JFRoss @ SMTP (James F. Ross) {JFR@icf.hrb.com}
- Like you, I learned the exact same lesson. Stacker 2.0 worked
- great for my system (clone 386sx25 w/ seagate IDE drive), but 3.0
- really hosed things up.
- I experienced the exact same "non-fatal" read errors; mine first
- showed up during the boot process, after I'd loaded stacker.
- Like yours, my problems were generally resolved by retrying
- (repeatedly, sometimes). Worse news: as I used the drive,
- more and more errors cropped up, during all phases of operations
- (e.g., at boot, during games, when loading windows, etc.)
- Still worse news: Eventually, I got to the point where I just
- could not access some files, no matter how often I retried. If
- you have not yet done so, BACKUP NOW!!! I lost a few documents
- that I had modified since backing up.
- I assume you've tried to reach Tech Support? (HAH) I called
- repeatedly over several days; on the few times that I didn't get
- a busy signal, I was told that I'd have to wait 25 - 35 minutes
- to talk to a technician (on MY phone bill). I eventually got in
- touch with customer service and demanded my money back (haven't
- seen it yet, though).
- Worst news of all: as far as I can tell, there is no way to
- downgrade. Your only option is to delete as many files as
- necessary to allow you to unstack, and then reinstall. If you
- don't have a recent backup, you could be in big trouble.
- (Actually, if you do have a recent backup, your best bet might be
- to delete the stackvol, reformat the drive, and reinstall Stacker
- 2.0. that's what I did, eventually, even though it's not a
- trivial process.)
- I was thoroughly disgusted with Stac's support and customer
- service departments throughout this mess. I couldn't get near
- tech-support, and customer service was rude and unpleasant. I
- sent a letter to them with the returned software, saying that I
- was going to investigate other compression programs. Haven't
- heard anything back yet, though.
-
-
-
- 5. {rambler!alpert@kb2ear.ampr.org}
- From: TPalaceS @ SMTP (Tuna Palace Systems)
- I have been having similar problems since upgrading. It occurs
- very infrequently, usually on the *UNSTACKED* portion of the
- drive.
- If you get any e-mail info on this, I would appreciate getting
- a copy. So far the phenomenon has happened so rarely that
- it doesn't have me too worried. Should probably call Stacker
- tech support, but just haven't had the time...
-