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- From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
- Subject: Re: "Windoze" slow? Naah...Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmar
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.024127.26117@wam.umd.edu>
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- References: <Truth_Assassin.0r68@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca> <1992Dec24.001944.2184@philips.oz.au>
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:41:27 GMT
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- Damn. Accidently replied private.
-
-
- In article <1992Dec24.001944.2184@philips.oz.au> you write:
- >Truth_Assassin@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Truth Assassin) writes:
- >
- >>Cbusch@ub.d.umn.edu (chris) Says:
- >>> Why hasnt motorola keep up to pace with intel with product
- >>> design?
-
-
- Two possibilities:
- 1. They're busy with the PowerPC, which is alread designed
- (by IBM).
- 2. They're concentrating ontheir very profitable and very
- successful consumer electronics markets--cellular, for
- instance.
-
-
-
- >>They have. Motorola 68040 is more powerful and efficient than Intel's 486.
-
-
- "Efficient"? Come on.
-
- It's nonsense. It's simply a better design. Motorola had the
- luck to start out with something that happens to have been
- much easier to extend into bigger and faster chips. Anyone
- want to compare number of registers?
-
-
- >>Motorola's 680x0 line of processors, except for the RISC machines, are
- >>pretty much the de-facto standard on computer platforms including
- >>workstations like the Sparc, etc. It's only IBM clones that use Intels
- >>80x86 line..
-
-
- What's the best selling line of all time? IBM clones.
-
-
- >And I always thought a Sparc used a Sparc chip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-
-
- Quite right. (see below)
-
-
- >And of course HP workstations use their RISC chip, so not sure how "standard"
- >the 680x0 is on latest workstations.
-
-
- It is not the standard on the latest wordstations, unless you
- count the Quadras (Apple, '040) and the Amigas ('040) and
- the NeXT's ('040). With the exception of the Apple Quads,
- none of these are "the latest" anything--well, the Amiga has
- new graphics.. but the NeXT is nothing really new, hardware
- wise, and for that matter neither arethe quads.
-
- But in the guy's defense, imagine he's been living in a cave
- for a few months and missed the general migration away from
- motorola processors. Let's remember--Sun used to make 68k
- based machines, and so did HP (as well as a lot of other
- people). But the *present* ofcomputers is that everyone
- is making their best efforts (yes, even Apple--one of the
- longest M68k users) to get away from Motorola. HP to PA risc,
- Sun and just about everyone else to Sparc, others to Alpha, some
- (weirdly) are even moving onto Intel (NeXT, Univel, Sun, others)--
- but mostly for the installed base (and not hardware wise).
-
- Nobody wants to be on Motorola CPUs because Motorolas track record
- for the last three years has been disgraceful--when was the
- '040-40 released? Anything since? And how late, exactly,
- is the "new" 88k? (Who's still a pusher of the 88k, anyway?
- Used to be Sun, HP, others--now it's just Data General)
-
- Motorola has been left in the dust by Intel. I would be
- willing to bet that the '050 ('060 for marketing fiends)
- willbe the last real evolutionary version of the 68k line.
- There's already a $60 risc (wisc, if what I've read is right)
- that can emulate a 25mhz 68040... [Yes, vapor--but it's been
- demoed, so it's a lot less vapor than the pentium or the
- '060]
-
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