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- From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
- Subject: Re: openVMS or UNIX.
- Date: 23 Dec 1992 12:00:34 GMT
- Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
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- References: <1992Dec16.084621.25138@unix.brighton.ac.uk> <16DEC199219130792@spades.aces.com>,<1992Dec23.005104.8248@brt.deakin.edu.au>
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- In article <1992Dec23.005104.8248@brt.deakin.edu.au>, dougcc@brt.deakin.edu.au (Douglas Miller) writes:
- >In article <16DEC199219130792@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com
- >(Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
- >
- >> #Are Open propriatry operating systems goin to become the future of computing?
- >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >> In addition to doing research, you should do a definition
- >> check. Open and proprietary are contradictory terms.
- >
- >Of course they are not. Virtually all "open" computing is also
- >"proprietary".
-
- You've got a point there. Perhaps you should wear a hat to hide it. An "open"
- system means that all the interfaces are well-publicised so that others can
- write code that uses the interfaces. Once you've done that, it's nonsense to
- talk about the interface as "proprietary."
-
- >An "open system" is one that minimises vendor lock-in (to
- >the extent that is appropriate to whoever is building the system).
-
- I.e., the interface is available (free of charce) to anybody and his brother.
-
- >"Proprietary" basicaly covers any product you pay money for.
-
- E.g. LAT, where you had to reverse-engineer the interface in order to use it.
- OPEN means that the owner of the interface publishes details of the interface.
-
- >There is no
- >contradiction;
-
- BULLSHIT! A proprietary interface typically is never published; it's
- considered a trade secret. An OPEN interface is published in detail.
-
- >virtually all "open systems" are built largely or
- >exclusively from proprietary products,
-
- Yes, most of the implementations of open systems are proprietary. However, the
- INTERFACE is *NOT* proprietary. As an analogy, ANSI C is *NOT* proprietary.
- It's an "open" standard. However, you can bet your life that just about any
- implementation of the standard *WILL* be proprietary.
-
- >with vendor lock-in minimised by
- >selecting products that conform to appropriate de-jure or de-facto
- >standards.
-
- Perhaps you'd benefit from an undergraduate couse in (shudder) philosophy,
- which might teach you to pay more close attention to what you're nattering
- about.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
-
- Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My
- understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So
- unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
- organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
- hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
-