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- From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
- Subject: Re: Dumb question of the week
- Date: 23 Dec 1992 11:50:59 GMT
- Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
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- References: <9212221927.AA15856@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
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- In article <9212221927.AA15856@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, RICHARDE@UV2.EGLIN.AF.MIL
- ("Eric F. Richards") writes:
- >I have a sequential mail file with messages in it that I want to copy/move
- >to a "normal" ISAM mail file. Am I missing something obvious in the FM
- >on how to do this? It doesn't seem possible short of mailing the messages
- >back to myself (which keeps me from seeing the original To:, Subj: lines).
-
- You ARE missing something. But it's NOT obvious (see: when someone comes up
- with a question that ISN'T obviously answered by the HELP facility, I *CAN* be
- polite :).
-
- You need to use the COPY command (though you'd think, if you didn't have a
- detailed understanding of how MAIL works, that it should be the MOVE command).
- From withing MAIL, type the command HELP COPY for details.
-
- Basically, the syntax is:
- {start reading a message}
- MAIL> COPY folder_name file_name
- The disk and directory default to SYS$LOGIN_DEVICE and your MAIL_DIRECTORY (see
- the results of HELP SET MAIL_DIRECTORY from withing MAIL for details)
-
- >If it can't be done with the MAIL user interface, has anyone written
- >anything using callable MAIL to do this?
-
- As described above, it CAN be down using the MAIL user interface.
-
- Please pardon me for using you as a good example, but I want to point out a few
- things here:
-
- Eric has asked a question about something that's at least a little bit arcane
- (i.e., you'd think [assuming you don't know a lot about VMS and MAIL] that the
- MOVE command is what you want, while in fact, you must use COPY);
-
- Eric has told us exactly what he wanted to accomplish (i.e., to move a MAIL
- message from a sequential file to an ISAM file);
-
- Eric has obviously spent some time thinking about his problem; at least enough
- time that he's figured out the appropritate buzzwords (ISAM in this case).
-
- In brief, Eric shows evidence of having tried to figure out how to do what he
- wants, but hasn't been successful. INFO-VAX/COMP.OS.VMS is intended to help
- people like Eric. People who will try to learn what's necessary to deal with
- VMS, but who've run into a dead end. *NOT* people who want to pretend to
- manage VMS systems without understanding VMS.
-
- I welcome Eric as someone who apparently understands that you've got to
- understand the OS you're working with to this newsgroup.
-
- Yes, his question was a "newbie" sort of question, but it was obviously asked
- by someone willing to take enough time that he understands what he's asking.
-
- Thank you, Eric, for providing a good example (and if you don't have the
- vaguest idea what I'm talking about on this issue, please send me e-mail, and
- I'll explain) of how to ask a question of this newsgroup.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
-
- Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My
- understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So
- unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
- organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
- hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
-