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- From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
- Subject: Re: Hot-key to kill WPS?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan3.174659.23033@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Date: 3 Jan 93 17:46:59 GMT
- References: <1993Jan1.173240.12351@midway.uchicago.edu> <1993Jan3.041645.29679@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
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- Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
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- In article <1993Jan3.041645.29679@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
- >> However, for better or worse, Microsoft has redefined CTRL-ALT-DEL
- >> (although they probably weren't the first).
- >Well, DesqView redefined CTRL-ALT-DEL quite a while ago. I found it
- >EXTREMELY useful. It is redefined in such a way that you can still argue
- >that its function has not changed - it reboots the machine. In the DV case
- >(and WinEnh I presume) it reboots the _virtual_ machine, thus killing the
- >app. DV allows CTRL-SHIFT-METABUCKEY-DEL (can't remember offhand) to reboot
- >the physical machine.
-
- Now just one question: how am I supposed to explain the concept of a
- "virtual machine" to someone who hasn't used computers before, in ten
- words or less?
-
- Let's take the case of OS/2 here. If I'm using the System Editor,
- that's not a virtual machine. If I'm using a seamless copy of
- WordPerfect for Windows, that's a virtual machine (possibly with a
- copy of 1-2-3 for Windows running alongside). If I'm using DOS
- WordPerfect, that's another virtual machine. Now when exactly does
- this CTRL-ALT-DEL take effect on the virtual machine? You mean, it
- behaves differently if I'm in the System Editor or DeScribe? :-) You
- mean, if I try it in WordPerfect for Windows, 1-2-3 for Windows also
- comes down? :-)
-
- This sort of borders on a religious issue, and I did suggest the
- remedy that I prefer now that we're in this mess (namely that, when
- you press CTRL-ALT-DEL, you are given the opportunity to press it
- again to reboot the system or hit ESC to back out). However, we're
- supposed to be trying to make computers easy (not harder or more
- confusing) to use, and we've still got a long way to go. It's real
- simple right now: CTRL-ALT-DEL reboots the system, CTRL-ESC switches
- among running tasks and open windows (and lets you close anything out
- there). CTRL-ESC DOES allow you to shut down a virtual machine -- the
- function is already in there. CTRL-ALT-DEL isn't going to do any
- better -- this is a protected mode operating system, after all. If
- CTRL-ESC doesn't work, then IBM's programmers need to find out what
- the problem is and correct it. (ALT-F4 for tasks running in windows,
- DOS, Windows, or OS/2, accomplishes the same thing, by the way.)
-
- For ten years plus CTRL-ALT-DEL has meant "reboot the system." Why
- should that change (in standalone OS/2, anyway, which is single user)?
- The only thing I think that needs to be changed is to make it idiot
- proof -- you have to hit it twice to get the system to restart.
-
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