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- From: vporguen@unlinfo.unl.edu (victor porguen)
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- Subject: Re: Virus Advice needed
- Date: 31 Dec 1992 03:31:38 GMT
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- > There are only a few cases of diskettes actually being infected
- > in the original duplication process, but there have been quite a
- > few isolated cases of stores accepting returned software, and
- > re-shrinkwrapping it.
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- Such unrelated, widely separate and different processes cannot be
- logically connected in any quantitative sense as above. For example,
- how many "re-wrappings" are being considered, vs. how many "original
- duplications"? Nobody knows how many time stores have rewrapped
- returned software. Certainly, the writer of the above sentence
- doesn't know. So why engage in these unprovable speculations?
-
- As far as inclusion of computer "viruses" into disks, viruses
- are incorporated at various stages of a disk's life and as a result
- of a variety of actions and processes. NO ONE has made any
- validated studies of whether software returned for credit to a
- software store ends up being more or less "infected" than software
- that is not so handled. The INFERENCE is that it MIGHT be, but
- inferences are often wrong. Especially in the virus/antivirus
- business, were crazy rumors are often started and encouraged by
- vendors of antivirus software, obviously in their own interest,
- and usually without any substantiation that can be independently
- verified. Until somebody can show me verifiable figures, I'll
- continue calling it what it is: bullshit.
-
- > Of course companies aren't "known" for spreading viruses.
- >
- >>Oh, they are...but only a few of them, though...
- >
-
- I interpreted the use of the expression "known" by the original
- poster mainly to mean "widely known" or "generally known". I am sure
- that some companies have, at one time or another, contributed to
- spread viruses, but I probably would not say that they are
- "generally known" to have done so.
-
- For example, it would seem obvious that the ONLY COMPANIES that
- would strongly benefit financially from the creation and spread of
- computer viruses are the antivirus software vendors. But it would
- be risky to say that they are "generally known" to do so. Perhaps
- "strongly suspected" would be a better term? What do readers here
- think?
-
- > Have you never heard of Virus-exchange BBSes - they sure are known
- > for that practice...
-
- I wouldn't call such systems "Companies", they mostly seem hobby
- systems, although they certainly could be commercial.
-
- But I _have_ heard some interesting stories about how some of them
- went about getting sudden hoards of initial "samples" and/or
- restocking their supplies... Many of the viruses in the collections
- of the virus exchange BBSs are so called "research viruses", given
- by their authors to one antivirus vendor or another. Some of them
- have been secretely "marked" with special strings encrypted within
- their code. All of a sudden, they show up on one of those virus-
- exchange BBSs, still carrying the encrypted name of the antivirus
- vendor they were made for!
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