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- From: gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester)
- Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
- Subject: Re: EXECUTION of DECUS Standards
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.153706.6247@cpu.com>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 15:37:06 GMT
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- In article <576@bigmax.UUCP>, folsom@bigmax.UUCP (Al Folsom) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec15.192557.13119@cpu.com>, gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester) writes:
- >>
- >> It might avoid some confusion, but the statement is **WRONG**!!
- >> At least the L&T and 3P SIG chairs are elected by the general membership at
- >> their respective Open SIG Steering Committe meetings members (not restricted
- >> to leaders) present. I believe that L&T does put a restriction that DEC
- >> employees can not vote, but I'm not sure.
- >
- >I cannot speak for 3P, but L&T most definately does not elect SIG
- >chairs. Our Policies and Procedures, both the current ones, and the
- >version now under review, do not even mention voting. SIG chairs
- >are, in actuality, "nominated" by the outgoing SIG chair, and
- >confirmed by the Executive Committee. Changes are reached by
- >concensus, with votes of any sort being extremely rare. To as great
- >an extent as possible, L&T maintains a huge steering committee, and
- >subject to budget constraints, keeps as many of them involved in
- >SIG affairs as possible.
- >
- >Note that I fully support this mechanism, I am not in any way
- >criticizing it. As long as it is easy to volunteer your time to
- >the SIG, and access to the steering committee is open, it produces
- >a smoother operation, and tends to discourage DECUS politicians, as
- >opposed to actual workers, from trying to control the SIG.
- >
- >The mechanism does, however, at least present the appearance of a
- >less representative democracy in SIG Council and the MC.
- >
-
- Al, I stand corrected. I went back and read the P&Ps and it
- does not mention elections. For some reason I thought that we took that
- section of the 3P SIG P&P's from L&T. It must have come from someplace else.
- I hope whatever SIG they were they speak up.
-
- >>
- >> You are very much a minority. The news letter subscription was about
- >> 2% of the membership and a good number of subscribers had/have either or both
- >> DECUServe or DCS accounts.
- >>
- >
- >Several people have expressed their concern to me over the demise
- >of the newsletter. 2% of the membership is *roughly* 1000 subscribers,
- >which is very low, but many of those subscribers really wanted it.
- >They HAD to, to fight through all the barriers we put in their way to
- >maintaining their subscriptions! DECUS killed the newsletters, but
- >not in one swell foop this past fall, but gradually over the last
- >five years through poor marketing, bad renewal policies, and lack
- >of support.
- >
-
- My 2% was based on a set of notes I had that said we had roughly 2,000
- paid subscribtions and a membership of 60,000 (which is really 3.33...%, but I
- did the math in my head). To get 1,000 subscribers you used a membership
- figure of 50,000. If we are down to 50,000 members the figure should be 6%.
-