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- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 00:04 PST
- From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
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- Subject: Re: SS7 Links Fron CA to NY via AT&T?
- Reply-To: John Higdon <john@zygot.ati.com>
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- Bob Yazz <yazz@oolong.la.locus.com> writes:
-
- > You don't seriously believe such a state of affairs will stand, do you
- > John? The PUC will order that numbers not be delivered, period. I
- > can even see the potential for lawsuits against Pac Bell over this.
-
- But the PUC cannot order this, just as it cannot prevent any carrier
- from passing realtime ANI to end users. In SS7, the calling number is
- ALWAYS transmitted as part of the data packet, although there is a bit
- that identifies it as a "blocked" number if such is the case. First,
- why would Pac*Bell even care about blocking if it does not trade in
- CNID? Second, what the end telco does about the "block bit" is up to
- the telco in the destination state. The PUC has no jurisdiction in
- this matter whatsoever. And remember, the PUC has not prohibited CNID.
- It has just placed what Pac*Bell considers to be unreasonable
- conditions on its offering. So Pac*Bell does not offer it. But the PUC
- has no authority to tamper with the SS7 protocol, particularly on
- interstate calls.
-
- Remember, the phone numbers of Californians are appearing right and
- left at locations both within and outside the state via ANI. Just as
- the PUC cannot do anything about this it cannot do anything about
- similar transmission via SS7. The PUC is only concerned about the
- feature known as "Caller-ID" as offered by LECs to customers in
- California. All else is outside the PUC's purview. The fact of the
- matter is that callers from California will have their phone numbers
- displayed wherever CNID is offered in other states, like it or not.
-
- Oddly enough, if a California caller dials *67 before placing a long
- distance call, the block bit will be set and there is a good chance
- that the display at the called telephone will say "Private Number" or
- whatever it is they say for blocked CNID. But most callers will not
- know this, and Pac*Bell is under no obligation to educate them.
- Pac*Bell is not offering CNID and therefore not required to meet any
- of the conditions for that service as mandated by the PUC.
-
- > Sounds like an incentive to switch to a long distance company that
- > does not use SS7. How do you think AT&T might feel about this?
-
- Switching to an IEC that does not use SS7 is a temporary reprieve at
- best; within several years calls will be sent no other way. And
- remember, there is still ANI. In this area, the Big Three are all
- using SS7 to Pac*Bell.
-
-
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