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- From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
- Subject: Re: meat eaters (was: Re: Gun Control Petition)
- Message-ID: <schuck.724963828@sfu.ca>
- Sender: news@sfu.ca
- Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
- Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
- References: <schuck.724449059@sfu.ca> <1992Dec15.202513.2976@cdf.toronto.edu> <schuck.724456188@sfu.ca> <1992Dec16.161642.17048@sco.COM>
- Distribution: can
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:50:28 GMT
- Lines: 56
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- paul@sco.COM (Paul Jackson) writes:
- >In article <schuck.724456188@sfu.ca> Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes:
-
- >>Eating meat is normal.
- >>Killing an animal to eat it is normal.
-
- >Normal, yes. Cruel, yes.
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- Cruel to eat meat? Nonsense.
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- >>
- >>Stop promoting vegetarianism as an ethical choice by ethical people as
- >>if vegetarians are more *moral*.
- >>
- >>A truly *ethical* person who wanted to cause no cruelty -- by your
- >>definition- would kill themselves and stop competing with animals for
- >>food, air and living space.
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- >My, aren't we an absolutist who sees the world in black and white. It is not
- >a matter of being ethical or nor being ethical, it is a spectrum along which
- >individuals fall.
-
- No no no. You miss the point. Someone who claims to be *more* eithical
- because they don't eat meat are just playing oneupmanship type games.
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- You are either ethical or you are not. Being a *little* ethical
- because you don't kill cows or don't hire someone to kill cows for you
- and then turning around and depriving wild animals of food and living
- space and clean air by taking it for yourself is hypocrisy.
-
- Polluting the streams and lakes and rivers with your excrement, and
- polluting the air with your cars and heating devices such as furnaces
- and killing the ozone layer with your refridgerator is *more*
- unethical than killing domesticated animals because the wildlife habitat
- you are destrying kills a lot more animals. It kills mice and the bird
- that feed on the mice etc etc. Such animals would go on living if
- humans would quit trampling on their habitat, while domesticated
- animals would have never lived without meat eaters to pay farmers to
- raise them.
-
- >Somebody who refuses to kill and eat animals when there is a reasonable
- >alternative because they believe that animals also have significant rights
- >IS being more ethical in this area than one who doesn't.
-
- You miss the point again. Vegetarians so-called ethical superiority is
- based on convenience. It is inconvenient to be truly ethical so
- vegetarians have chosen to be ethical towards domesticated animals and
- unethical to wild animals by helping destroy their habitat.
-
- >This does NOT mean
- >that somebody who eats meats is an evil scum.
-
- Thats very true.
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