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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:29:43 NFT
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- From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRORS12.BITNET>
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- Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
- From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
- Subject: 1992 in review.
- Organization: The Zoo of Ids
- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:12:09 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec16.221209.24830@zooid.guild.org>
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- Journal: PC-Computing Oct 1992 v5 n10 p58(1)
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- MICROSOFT IS SO CONCERNED ABOUT OS/2's POSSIBLE success that it's
- putting on a road show just to convince people that they shouldn't
- even try OS/2. As far as Microsoft's concerned, we should wait for
- Windows NT or use Windows 3.1, no matter how limited their power.
-
- A mole at Microsoft has distributed copies of an internal marketing
- memo that outlines the company's strategy for burying OS/2 in the
- minds of anyone even considering it. I'll outline some highlights of
- the 40-page presentation to help you evaluate the sales pitches and
- the sometimes dubious information flying around about Windows and
- OS/2. There is nothing worse than disinformation from pitchmen.
-
- Microsoft's key concern is listed in the "Tactics" section of the
- memo: "Whenever possible, take the high road. The material can be
- inflammatory. It may also give the customer not actively evaluating
- OS/2 the impression that we're worried about OS/2 and plant the idea
- in their mind that they should evaluate it."
-
- In other words, leave customers in the dark if they show no
- inclination toward OS/2. If they do show interest, then blast them
- with this material.
-
- The sales reps are told to "use squeeze positioning: Squeeze OS/2
- between the capabilities of Windows 3.1 on the desktop and Windows NT
- on the workstation and server." Then memo instructs: "Important! Use
- the term native Windows applications when talking about Windows apps.
- Important! Do not use the word seamless to describe OS/2 2.0's support
- for native Windows applications."
-
- The presentation goes into a hard sell from there. A slide indicates
- that OS/2 will not even load on 24 percent of the machines tested.
- Included in this list are the names of the failed machines: "NCR,
- Northgate, AT&T, Gateway, and Dell." No model numbers or details are
- given on the slides or the memo, but there seems to be an implication
- that no machine from NCR, Northgate, AT&T, Gateway, or Dell can run
- OS/2. I was just corresponding with a fellow who was happily running
- OS/2 on a Gateway 386 machine, so I wonder about these assertions.
-
- If I were a corporate Microsoft client looking at this list, I sure
- wouldn't want to buy any of those machines, even to run Windows. It
- sounds like there are obvious compatibility problems. Maybe the
- mentioned vendors should straighten out Microsoft on this issue before
- people begin to assume that these companies make dubious machines.
-
- The memo gets better. Part III of the presentation goes into high
- gear. Called "Myth Slides," this section shows Microsoft's real
- concerns and its litany of responses to these issues. According to the
- memo, the Myth Slides are to be used only on a customer who questions
- Microsoft's claims.
-
- Here are a few of the myths and Microsoft's responses. First,
- Microsoft attacks the criticism that Windows is just a powerful DOS
- shell. Although its arguments are sound, Microsoft admits that file
- I/O goes through DOS; Windows needs DOS to boot and uses DOS to run
- DOS programs. It's amusing that Microsoft calls Windows an operating
- system but admits it won't boot or perform file I/O. But OK, we'll
- stretch the definition.
-
- The second myth explored is that "OS/2 is fully 32 bits." Microsoft
- retorts that various 16-bit components in OS/2 cause bottlenecks. In
- this slide, Microsoft compares OS/2 not to Windows 3.1 but to the
- unreleased Windows NT, which is shown as 100 percent 32 bit.
- Great--give me a copy.
-
- The next myth is interesting: "Windows NT is a 1993-94 Technology."
- Microsoft states, "Windows NT is on track for a 1992 release." When I
- see shrink wrap at Egghead, then I'll believe it. No offense to
- Microsofties, but I've heard these promises before.
-
- Onward to "OS/2 is a better Windows than Windows." Here Microsoft is
- right: It's not. On my system, OS/2 runs all my Windows apps just
- fine. I'm really a DOS user looking for more performance and
- versatility. I tell my friends in the graphic arts who need the GUI
- and Windows to get Windows 3.1 (or a Mac) or wait for OS/2 Windows 3.1
- support.
-
- I suppose that leads to the real joke of the presentation, where
- Microsoft calls the phrase "OS/2 is a better DOS than DOS" a myth. Its
- argument is based on the fact that OS/2 is bigger than DOS, so how
- could it be better?
- [This is the most stupid argument I've ever heard, well, almost :-) ]
-
- By declaring this a hoax, Microsoft brings the entire presentation
- into question. Gee, guys, is OS/2 good for anything at all? No? Funny,
- since Microsoft is a codesigner and only recently changed the name of
- OS/2 3.0 to Windows NT. Who are we trying to kid?
-
- The key here is that Microsoft doesn't want anyone to even try OS/2,
- and you have to wonder why. The way I see it, OS/2 is the best
- solution for me today. I agree with Microsoft that it doesn't run on
- every system, and I don't know if it's because of wacky BIOS chips or
- strange motherboard designs, but I seriously doubt that this dilemma
- will be any different with Windows NT. In fact, it could be worse.
- Whatever the case, OS/2 is an inexpensive multitasker that ends the
- need for extenders, caches, memory managers, and other costly add-ins.
- If Windows NT is better, then I'll install it. After all, it's not
- that hard to swap operating systems nowadays. Maybe Microsoft should
- follow its own advice-- "Take the high road"--and dump this negative
- and misleading presentation.
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