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- From: edonchin@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Emanuel Donchin)
- Subject: SPSS-Windows - some questions
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- Summary: Difficulties encountered in using Spss-Win
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- Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:57:08 GMT
- Keywords: windows spss
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- I am looking for users who have experience with spss-win. Right now I am
- about ready to return the program and ask for a refund. It may, however,
- be the case that I am missing some important details of usage.
-
- My main complaint is that even though SPSS made a serious attempt to
- make this into a Windows program, it is still at heart a main-frame
- program.
-
- The most annoying and main-framish aspect of the prgoram is that the
- output of all operations is essentially a dead print out. Even when the
- output goes to the screen in an output window it is still dead to
- further analysis.
-
- In the olden days it made sense, because there was no other way, to
- generate miles of line printer output for the user to pore over.
- Nowadays, it would should be standard operating procedure for every
- thing you generate to exist in live-data form so it can be further
- examined by the user applying the power of the computer.
-
- A case in point: I am analyzing timeseries data with 150 variables per
- case. I perform a principal component analysis on the data and get long
- lists of factor loadings and so on. It is important for me to visualize
- the factor loadings plotted against the variables. This means I should
- be able to get the printout of the factor loadings (what the program
- calls the factor-solution) into a plotting program. There is, however,
- no simple way within Spss to do so.
-
- Copying the printout and pasting it into the data worksheet does not
- seem to work. Though, cutting and pasting the same data into Excel 4.0
- does work fine.
-
- This is not the working style one expects in 1992 in a new PC program.
-
- One other difficulty: The program would not perform the PCA on all 150
- variables claiming insufficient memory. As I have 16 meg of RAM on my
- system, 8 of which were free for use, it is not clear how spss managed
- not to find enough memory for its operations.
-
- Any advise or comments would be appreciated.
-
-
- Manny Donchin
- Department of Psychology
- University of Illinois
- Champaign, IL 61820
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- edonchin@s.psycy.uiuc.edu
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