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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:46:23 CST
- Sender: "Megabyte University (Computers & Writing)" <MBU-L@TTUVM1.BITNET>
- From: Eric Crump <C509379@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
- Subject: Re: apology for conferencing
- In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:12:12 -0700 from <IACDES@ASUACAD>
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- On Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:12:12 -0700 David E. Schwalm said:
- >Not really a trick question, Eric. I have some concerns about the transfer
- >from speaking to writing. The speaker/listener dynamic is much different from
- >the writer/reader dynamic. That is, speaker and listerner share a context, and
- >this sharing takes a great communicative burden off of the speaker. Often when
- >we claim that a student has successfully *said* something that he/she had not
- >successfully *written*, what has actually happned is that the listener has
- >supplied more of the meaning than a reader can. The speaker has not really
- >achieved more linguistic accuracy or completeness.
-
- Ah yes. A common exclamation heard in writing centers is: "That
- sounds great! WRITE THAT DOWN!"
- ^^^^^^
- Talk is ephemeral. As Ong notes, sound "exists only when it is
- going out of existence." Encouraging students to sprinkle
- writing throughout the conversation helps capture some of
- those expressions in some approximate form so we can *look*
- at the words in the context the reader will see them in.
-
- It's primitive, though. I agree:
-
- >Thus, I really like
- >the idea of computer conferencing where we can write about writing.
-
- and the key here is that we'll be writing about writing *in
- conversation.* The idea JohnS & Karen have mentioned looks to
- me like a way to give more people access to the kind of
- conversations we have here.
-
- I sort of think online writing environments will make freshman
- comp and writing centers (the kind nestled within four white-washed
- cinderblock walls) obsolescent.
-
- --Eric Crump
-