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- From: Lance Tagliapietra <96720919@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>
- Subject: Re: Kermit on Amiga?
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- >Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:29:21 -0500
- >From: JVENTOLA@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
- >Subject: RE: Kermit on Amiga?
- >
- >Lance,
- > Thanks for your reply about Kermit, but now I am confused. I gather
- >that I would see some improvement if I were to switch to this new kermit.
- >Is that correct?
-
- Possibly. It is hard to say without knowing more about the flavor of
- Kermit on the other side. If the other kermit is is capable, they can
- use extensions that have been added to the protocol such as long packets
- and sliding windows.
-
- >
- >If so, would I need to compile it myself? Or did you mention the source
- >code by the way? I have no C experience or compiler---except for Dice
- >somewhere.
-
- The binary is available via ftp from watsun.cc.columbia.edu. The Kermit
- announcement I just posted to this group has all the "where to get" info.
-
- >
- >If I get the binary, how do I use it? Do I log on using VLT and then
- >invoke this new Kermit somehow? I do not understand what is meant by
- >"server mode." Could you explain that? I was also confused about the
- >relationship between your Amiga and tandy model 4. Are they connected
- >via a null modem?
-
- Here comes the long explanation...brace yourself. :)
-
- We have basically been talking about two Kermits here. There is the
- file transfer protocol known as kermit which has been implemented in
- various terminal programs. There is also the program called Kermit,
- which of course implements the file transfer protocol of that name,
- but also a scripting language (very powerful, in fact), character
- set translation, network interfaces, and a bunch of other goodies,
- online help, for example.
-
- Kermit the program, as implemented for the Amiga, does not (and
- probably never will according to the person doing the port) have
- any terminal emulation (such as vt100, Adm3a, ect). So what you
- could do is use VT100 as your terminal emulator for the editors
- and applications you use on the system you are connecting with.
- When you are ready to transfer files, exit out of VT100 and
- run Kermit. Tell the kermit on the remote system to send the
- files, and tell your local kermit to receive them.
-
- Server mode is a benifit of having kermit the program on each end
- of the link. You place the remote kermit in server mode, and you
- place your local kermit in command mode. Then to transfer files
- you issue commands such as "get" and "send" and the remote system
- will get the file, or receive the file from your system. The
- advantage is that you are only typing a command on one machine,
- you are not first telling the remote system to send the file,
- and then your local system to receive the file like you do with
- xmodem or sometimes zmodem for instance.
-
- On my system, I place the C-Kermit on the Amiga in server mode.
- Then on my Trs-80 model 4 (now the local system) I can transfer
- files to and from the hard drive on the Amiga, without first
- having to tell the Amiga to send or receive a particular file,
- the Kermit server protocol is doing that for me. I just sit at
- my Model 4 and am using the Amiga like a remote system in this
- case.
-
- Besides the file transfer commands, I can change directories,
- run programs, list directories, ect. The kermit protocol is
- used for these exchanges between systems. Sometimes when the
- lines are excessively noisy, I run kermit on the remote system
- just to have the program eliminate the line noise. No, I haven't
- gotten this to work for editing sessions. But for operations
- that do not need any interaction from the user (like arcing files
- for transfer) this is a nice facility.
-
- The docs for C-Kermit should come with the distribution. Their
- location is described in the Announcement posting I made. The
- docs are available in both ascii and postscript form. There are
- also docs available which describe the protocol in detail.
-
- >
- >Sorry to be so dense. Maybe 1993 will see some clarity.
- >Happy New Year
- >Jim Ventola
- >
- >jventola@ecn.mass.edu
- >English Department * Massasoit CC * Brockton, MA 02402
-
- No problem. Yours is really a pretty common set of questions.
- I just hope I did not tell you more than you really wanted to
- know...
-
- -Lance
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